Nobody said this was meant to replace any of the traditional WC forms. The people who came up with this (Ip Ching & his students) didn't add anything new...all this is is a showcase form with bits & pieces from the traditional forms. It's not meant to change or modify the traditional system in any way, nor does it. It's just a fun little form for demonstrations, & lets you work principles from the entire system in one little exercise.
I give respect to anyone who travels down the W.C. path. So, I give whoever created this, "4th Form", their respect for investing years in studying a very complex, and effective martial way. As we all do, or should do, they have attempted to make this system their own, and I say let them have that. We all have our own way, and with respect to all students, sifu's, masters, and grand masters, none of us are perfect. If it works, do it, if not, don't. Respect.
The original creator(s) of Wing Chun were human, not infallible... but dont forget what era they lived in.
Back then, martial arts aptitude can be the main deciding factor between life and death...
So to see ppl whose angles and body positions deviate so much from what is generally considered 'right' in traditional Wing Chun forms try to create a 4th form by allegedly combining elements from the main forms in Wing Chun is simultaneously laughable and insulting...
ok the 4th form is made from GrandMaster Yip Man...its a form that litle people used to know!!!! its not for performing or for posser or else!!! its for your Chi...or else know as the power chi form of Yip Man!!!
This... is... just sad. I try and I try to not criticize... but... This is just too wrong not to comment. Yes, the fingers! Snap. Snap!The bouncing! Are they on trampolines? The utter lust for attention! Look at me, I made up a form!! I'm on a stage, too, so I must be famous! whoo hoo! Look Ma, no ma!! Posture? Who needs it? Well I hope they enjoyed the glory. Because now they have lifetime of shame for it.
As I said WCK is very good but not perfect, so anyone can add in some postures and movements, or devise another forms to enhance its effectiveness. I am happy to see any smarter guys who are able to do this. I see that the so called fourth form not only can not achieve this purpose, but is in a way similar to a chinese saying " you add four legs to a snake in a drawing.". For the purpose of giving a taste to the spectators, one should add in movements from various schools of kungfu.
Man, people need to relax.
Nobody said this was meant to replace any of the traditional WC forms. The people who came up with this (Ip Ching & his students) didn't add anything new...all this is is a showcase form with bits & pieces from the traditional forms. It's not meant to change or modify the traditional system in any way, nor does it. It's just a fun little form for demonstrations, & lets you work principles from the entire system in one little exercise.
So
chill
out.
TwoGunGunnar 1 year ago
Wing Chun Competitive Form (4th Form) - 詠春摘要 - Ip Man
演練者把整套拳打得過於硬朗和緊張!
失去了長橋發勁、柔中有剛、剛中帶柔的特色!
ORCHINGCHUEN 1 year ago
can anyone translate it ?
steevan 1 year ago
I give respect to anyone who travels down the W.C. path. So, I give whoever created this, "4th Form", their respect for investing years in studying a very complex, and effective martial way. As we all do, or should do, they have attempted to make this system their own, and I say let them have that. We all have our own way, and with respect to all students, sifu's, masters, and grand masters, none of us are perfect. If it works, do it, if not, don't. Respect.
wingchunphil 1 year ago
The original creator(s) of Wing Chun were human, not infallible... but dont forget what era they lived in.
Back then, martial arts aptitude can be the main deciding factor between life and death...
So to see ppl whose angles and body positions deviate so much from what is generally considered 'right' in traditional Wing Chun forms try to create a 4th form by allegedly combining elements from the main forms in Wing Chun is simultaneously laughable and insulting...
Deus215 2 years ago
ip man had never create a such form...
i think that this show is a real insult against the ancestors
squareenixkh 2 years ago
ok the 4th form is made from GrandMaster Yip Man...its a form that litle people used to know!!!! its not for performing or for posser or else!!! its for your Chi...or else know as the power chi form of Yip Man!!!
Nutsukidesu 2 years ago
This... is... just sad. I try and I try to not criticize... but... This is just too wrong not to comment. Yes, the fingers! Snap. Snap!The bouncing! Are they on trampolines? The utter lust for attention! Look at me, I made up a form!! I'm on a stage, too, so I must be famous! whoo hoo! Look Ma, no ma!! Posture? Who needs it? Well I hope they enjoyed the glory. Because now they have lifetime of shame for it.
bl00zjamma 2 years ago
Nothing can be added nor taken away Hung fa yi
daddyo 2 years ago
As I said WCK is very good but not perfect, so anyone can add in some postures and movements, or devise another forms to enhance its effectiveness. I am happy to see any smarter guys who are able to do this. I see that the so called fourth form not only can not achieve this purpose, but is in a way similar to a chinese saying " you add four legs to a snake in a drawing.". For the purpose of giving a taste to the spectators, one should add in movements from various schools of kungfu.
noquake 2 years ago