Why I'm not an atheist - Ravi Zacharias

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Ravi Zacharias is a Christian apologist, philosopher and Minister.

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[OzInfoWarrior]

@GOOdGuyGreg1 "you idiot" "wow you re actually retarded."

Including ad hominem attacks in your arguments indicates you are being emotional in your replies rather than arguing with reason. Being disrespectful has ended this discussion. Learn to argue without infusing emotion.

[OzInfoWarrior]

@GOOdGuyGreg1 But that so-called freedom (actually slavery) soon becomes their death-nell when the overlords extend their animal like control over their beasts of burden. In other words, there's not much fornicating going on in the slaughter house.

[OzInfoWarrior]

@GOOdGuyGreg1 If you remove the Creator, then you remove your rights as a human, because they are no longer endowed to you, they are privileges granted by whim of governmental decree. That's a huge difference. I understand WHY men want to insist they're nothing more than animals, most usually so they can behave like them in matters of violence, language and fornication.

[OzInfoWarrior]

@GOOdGuyGreg1 "and on your view of the general peception, no i would still be against pedophilla etc."

You're too short sighted. Why would you be against something society believes is morally acceptable? Society trumps what you think is morally right without God.

[OzInfoWarrior]

@GOOdGuyGreg1 "not all atheists live under judeo christion laws."

Of course not. You cherry pick rather than address the argument put forth. I was talking about our Western Civilization but you want to play games rather than answer. I know the answer. You would be regarded as a "weak atheist" by stronger believers in survival of the fittest and they have every right to do whatever they want to you, because it's how the species evolves with their better genes, is it not?

[OzInfoWarrior]

@GOOdGuyGreg1 "yes people will dislike each other-thats why we have laws."

No, again you're wrong. We have laws to protect ourselves from eachother, not because people "dislike" eachother. A lot of crime is committed with no hate for the other person.

[GOOdGuyGreg1]

@OzInfoWarrior because if you believe that carbon dating (and all other methods of dating) are wrong, then that is just like your argument about biology. that is wrong, that is naive. you cannot discredit whole fields of study because of your faith. that is just irrational. yes dating isnt accurate 100% of the time-but it is still very effective. again, its not just some big conspiracy. please wake up and use your mind!

[GOOdGuyGreg1]

@OzInfoWarrior and on your view of the general peception, no i would still be against pedophilla etc. my argument is not valid under the hypothetical situation that the entire world turns racist etc. my argument is one that relates to the age we live in-the age of reason. and let me ask yu one more question. what do you believe regarding the dinosaurs? do you believe there bones are to test us? or that carbon dating is wrong and that they lived withing 6000 years?

[GOOdGuyGreg1]

@OzInfoWarrior not all atheists live under judeo christion laws. if you look at atheists in china, they do not follow the bible. the bible cannot claim morality. atheists arent just in the west. like my question that you have still failed it answer. if societies coexisted before judaism and christianity, then how did people survive if not for man made morals? are you saying that before then, no tribe of people were ever moral towards each other?

[GOOdGuyGreg1]

@OzInfoWarrior besides darwinism is just the basis of the idea. it has been refined constantly as technology advances and we learn more. that is why very little of darwinism is followed in the modern concept of evolution.

"why would religious people study biology when it's a field ruled by & for the Godless"

-that is one of the stupidest things ive heard. just because you dont understand it and your little book says otherwise, doesnt mean the whole field of study is wrong. you are wrong