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[Pandonodrim]

If the only way your "family" can make money is by destroying the earth and exploiting others then guess what - you don't deserve to make a living.

Coal is not cost effective. The only reason coal is considered "cheap" is because it has externalized the costs of environmental pollution/degradation and health complications for over a century. If the people who burned coal were held responsible for the pollution, coal would be BY FAR the most expensive form of energy - even more than nuclear.

[JETP1L0T]

@somecomputergeek

Obam is not a scientist, and he is definitely not god. Just because clean coal has his tick of approval does not mean it is a good investment or remotely sustainable. Its just a ploy to keep the big fat energy companies making billions. Geothermal energy is the best possible hope we have for a green future. Thats what we should be investing in.

[CharIesMarteI]

C + O2 --> CO2

It's not that hard people.

No matter how much sulfur you remove from coal to make it "clean", it's still carbon, and you're still putting CO2 into the atmosphere.

[TheWanderingPrimate]

The scariest thing about a PR campaign of this magnitude is how quickly it becomes a conversational "fact".

The other day I was telling a relative about the new wind turbines Japan came up with, which produce energy cheaper and more efficiently than any current macro-grid option (including nuclear). His response was that nothing is cheaper than coal, and now that they can make it cleanly, we should all support it for the economy's sake. I asked what made it "clean" and got a blank stare.

[Vadergeek]

Hmm... Well, it's not as good as No Country For Old Men, or The Big Lebowski, but I think as far as Coen Brothers pieces go this is about equal in quality with, say, The Hudsucker Proxy.

[redape6870]

this is great. oh and i love that whole mountaintop mining thing where they blow up a whole mountain to get the precious coal from underneath it. until we can convince the powers that be that green energy can and will turn a profit once the proper measures are in place we're all gonna be choking on coal and gasoline fumes for the next 100 years.

[flyingpigstuff]

@CuzFat Get a different job just like the 4 billion other people on this planet have to do..

[CuzFat]

ok first off im a coal miner from Karlan, im not here to preach how good coal is and "don't like coal dont use electricity" becuase there are other means of creating power. coal miners don't go underground risking there life every day becuase they hate Obama or they hate a clean planet. they do it to provide for there family's and earn a living. every day underground could be your last. but where im from its the best paying job. im proud to be part of the mining industry.

[Pandonodrim]

@thinkingthingsthru The reactors in Japan are mostly offline due to problems and the French reactors have had numerous leaks - contaminating groundwater in some communities to the point where they have to have all their water brought in in bottles. Google "france nuke leaks."

Renewables like wind, solar, etc. will be far more reliable and inexpensive in the long run.

[Pandonodrim]

@thinkingthingsthru Again, wind alone will not cut it - but it can be a significant contribution to a combined power system based in renewable, sustainable energy.

Nuclear is not the answer. The facilities are horrendously expensive to build and take forever to get up and running (usually at least a decade). They ALWAYS run over budget and overtime - and then there is the waste issue.

[Pandonodrim]

@thinkingthingsthru Sorry, I didn't quite catch all this, I think there's a typo in your last sentence. Could you rephrase?

[Pandonodrim]

@thinkingthingsthru I know about all this - minimum wind speeds, etc. It is not an issue of wind turbines being useless as you suggest - simply that they are a fundamentally different source of power generation than a "baseload" plant like a coal plant. Here in Texas the share of our power that comes form wind is increasing every year (though it is still quite small). Energy storage will solve all the issues wind power has.