Jan 16, 2012 GOP Fox News Debate - Part 5

Fox News Wall Street Journal Debate in Myrtle Beach, SC

Ron Paul 2012
Peace. Liberty. Freedom.

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[KidGalahad67]

All these Christians getting hard-ons talking about killing without due process. WTF Phoney bastards

[deathofsmokey]

People are booing the golden rule now. This nation is fucked.

[tron612]

@LordMalice6d9 WRONG! Thou Shalt not KILL!

[eri1536]

@durhamdf i must commend you for your reply, not that many people on here that respond with respect, having said that there is a very fine line between non intervention and isolationism. with WW2 i wouldn't have gotten involved in the beginning when the nazi's were just kicking out the jews from their country, but i would have gotten involved when they were using them in the labor camps, same with the russian gulags and mao zedong labor camps

[5944Joseph]

@durhamdf - out of all the candidates, I have always seen Ron Paul as the most compassionet as he is a doctor and has had experience in real time war. I feel that he had to have the ability to fair and just in times of war. I also, would like to think that if saw, there was going to be a holocaust or massacure in another country he would do something about it. I may be wrong, but when I see him, in comparison to the other candidates, I can't help but see a resaonable, kind and intelegent man.

[5944Joseph]

@durhamdf - Please let me know where you have heard him say that because I fully support him as of now and if that was the case, it might change my mind. I have heard him say things like, we need to bring our troops home because our military is in shambals. Also, that he wants to stop fighting with other countries and talk peace with them, instead of continuing to fight. Obviously, after what I just said, you can see how I would like that.

[durhamdf]

@5944Joseph Well then you aren't really an isolationist at all which Ron Paul clearly is. Ron Paul doesn't seem to think that there is ever a justification for intervention in another country's business. I believe that as a global superpower, we have a responsibility to stand with populist movements seeking freedom from oppressive tyranical leaders. A good example being Libya, what do we get out of that? Nothing, just the knowledge that we didn't let civillians get shelled by a nut job dictator

[durhamdf]

@eri1536 I am not a NeoCon I don't think the U.S. can do no wrong. There is clearly a difference between what conservatives did in the cold war (propping up dictators and overthrowin democratic governments) and supporting a populist movement to overthrow a tyranical murderous regime! You have gone in the opposite direction and have become an isolationist. Isolationism is the most selfish position one could take. Like everything in life neither extremes are right

[5944Joseph]

@durhamdf - (2nd part to my answer) Helping them because we want something from them – that is what I disagree wtih. There is a lot of that that happens today. In the end, we need peace. We need a stong leader who can introduce peace and compassion for every country. We can’t stop war and fighting with more war and fighting.

[5944Joseph]

@durhamdf - @durhamdf - No, I don’t think we should have let Sadam annex Kuwait. It saddens me that we didn’t step in sooner during the holocaust. I would hope that if something like that happened in America, another country would help us. My belief in helping another country for the greater good (to save lives) is strong. I’m all for it.

[eri1536]

@durhamdf logical flaw there, WE brought sadam into power to fight those iranians, if we didnt interject ourselves in every counties biz then he never would have rose to power, there never would have been an iraq/iran war, never would have been the cleansing of the kurds, and he never would have invaded kuwait, and there would have never have been the 2 gulf wars. we need to learn once again to stay the hell out of the inter-workings of sovereign countries

[durhamdf]

@5944Joseph So you are saying we should have let Sadam annex Kuwait . You isolationists today sound just like the Americans that let over 7 million Jews, Gays, and Gypsies get slaughtered in the holocaust because "it wasn't our business". When you are a world power, atrocities anywhere become your business! And much of the conflict we see today is a byproduct of the cold war. What were we supposed to do? Let the soviets annex Europe, Central Asia, Asia, and South America?