LEVITICUS

We got word through one source or another that Jay Bakker (son of Jim and Tammy Faye) was hosting church meetings at a bar in our neighborhood.

Thinking it would make a great documentary subject, in early December we decided to head over to see what it was like and get some preliminary footage.

Jay was absent that night, but co-ounder Marc Brown 'spoke', delivering an informative - and humorous - sermon.

On that night we also learned of the Sudance mini-series... That dashed our ideas of a long-format documentary.

Here is what we edited from that first visit.

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[TJae1]

... does good flip interpretations...

[TJae1]

U wouldn't have a show dude, if queers were that taboo...

[Whitese7en]

Also in Proverbs, is a verse that states in essence if you spare the rod of correction, you spoil the child. The child will be responsible for his/her own sins but many of his/her sins will be the consequence of the fathers/parents sin of shirking their duty to be a responsible parent by disciplining their children.

[Whitese7en]

Exodus 20:5 on the other hand, is a warning of the dire consequences that will be heaped upon future generations because fathers are in essence training up their children to sin by worshiping idols themselves. The verse in Proverbs 22 that states "train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it", works both ways.

[Whitese7en]

But it's not about punishing someone else for the sins of another. God is merciful and just and as such, He doesn't do that. Each one is judged according to his or her own transgressions. Read Jeremiah 32:17-20 and Ezekiel 18:19-20 because both of these verses go into this a little more deeply.

[returnofcrazyA]

I'm sorry but i have to disagree with this interpretation. While it makes sense that this could and does frequently happen, the verse refers to punishing those 3 to 4 generations away for sins that someone else did. there is an interesting interpretation of these 2 verses that i found elsewhere on the net which explain how they are not contradictions, but they paint God in a bad light. I appreciate this interpretation though. I agreemost lists of contradictions can be explained away with context

[Whitese7en]

The sin in question which Exodus 20:5 is referring to, is idolatry. This is a warning about the grave consequences of worshiping other gods. If a child grows up in a home with parents who are atheists, it is very likely that the child will grow up to repeat the sins of the parents and will likewise suffer the penalty and consequences of that sin.

[Whitese7en]

Deut 24:16 is a reference to the penalty of sin("death" Romans 6:23) and Exodus 20:5 is a reference to the consequence of sin. Those are two completely different things. The penalty for my sin has already been paid however, when I sin, even as a Christian, there are still consequences.

[Whitese7en]

This is one of those cases where what looks like a contradiction, isn't, once you dig into the verse and look at it in it's proper context.

[returnofcrazyA]

ah ok. But i still maintain that if Jesus meant God wrote the divorce law for the time being he would have said that. Not Moses wrote that because of your hardness of heart. Moses can come up with something that God allows to take place because of their hardness of heart even though it is not his commandment. Therefore certain laws could be written due to the state of the people and not be God's will as in his holy law for us to follow for all time i.e. not God's commandment.