@TheFlanker35 "But there some positive aspects in religion and the "god" concept". I suspect that the positive aspects depend upon where one is standing (a sort of 'moral relativity'): the social cohesion, comfort and inspiration offered by religion also make it easier to wage war. Would conflict be so easy if it were not for the 'double whammy' of 'having god on ones side' and 'going to live with god in heaven' if one then dies? The witch-doctor always stands next to the headman in any tribe!
@TheFlanker35 [cont] List pension; his inclusion will tarnish the memory of Faraday and others (Heaviside was also insane, but did not 'foul the nest' of science so). Instead, the Royal Society has awarded a Hauksbee medal to Evans' lap-dog, Pendergast. Surely no really good teacher would be associated with pseudoscience to such an extent!
I always put Sachs in the loony camp, due to an anti-relativistic paper which he wrote years ago
UFT always looks like mere 'begging the question' to me.
@TheFlanker35 Yep, I did indeed mean Joseph Smith; the guy whose Mormon bible unaccountably contains lines from the King James' version ... which it supposedly pre-dates.
The funny thing about Evans is that every fault which he ascribes to others applies far more to himself: closed-minded, pseudoscientific, obsessed with social position, etc. The unfunny thing is that authorities take his side and really DO attempt to stifle valid criticism.
I would like to see someone rescind his Civil- ...
(continued)...I like some parts of his theory and would love it more chemists made contributions to physics, but he is incorrigibly quixotic. If only he'd look for another group! The idea of electric charge as spinning spacetime is very appealing, but his math is just wrong!
I just got "Physics of the Universe" by Mendel Sachs for Christmas. So far, Sachs' unified field theory looks promising.
P.S. I think you mean Joseph Smith, the Mormon founder.
It's possible, but I think the existence of Muhammad is even less likely than the existence of Jesus. At least there are a couple secular references to Jesus dating to about 100 A.D. With Muhammad, there is only one Byzantine account even resembling of the Battle of Mu'tah and that is from Theophanes, who wrote two centuries after the battle.
...But there some positive aspects in religion and the "god" concept.
Evans' math is wrong and he won't even listen to correction....
@TheFlanker35 You are 'preaching to the choir'. As an atheist, I do not believe that any of the religious founders existed (in the sense of having special powers). I think that they were all just conmen like John Smith and L.Ron Hubbard - plus perhaps some skill in conjuring (passed off as paranormality) like Uri Geller.
There does seem to be some evidence for the existence of M as a real person, but it makes him look rather sleazy: a sort of gigolo who had to find work when his client died.
Evans is keen on genealogy, and likes to claim - for instance - a distant relationship to Queen Elizabeth. Does this mean that he is also related to the prophet Mohammed? After all, she is.
No doubt Evans would ridicule this claim. However, it was made by Burke's Peerage back in 1986. How can he dismiss its authority without undermining the validity of his own entry in Burke?
If I were a spokeswoman for critical mainstream scientists (what Evans calls the 'fringe'), I would tell him that we have lost interest now that even the TGA and members of his own AIAS (themselves not too kosher) have realised what a humbug he his. Also, he should not take heart from the numbers of hits/downloads registered by his website. This does not reflect any belief in his theories; it is just that his antics are the academic/intellectual equivalent of a train-wreck. Who can resist ...?
Evans, in his blog of 17/02/10, asks where the 'fringe' has gone; by which he means the few mainstream scientists who have bothered to criticise him. I guess that they have lost interest, now that he is completely isolated and even other crackpots have disowned him.
@TheFlanker35 "But there some positive aspects in religion and the "god" concept". I suspect that the positive aspects depend upon where one is standing (a sort of 'moral relativity'): the social cohesion, comfort and inspiration offered by religion also make it easier to wage war. Would conflict be so easy if it were not for the 'double whammy' of 'having god on ones side' and 'going to live with god in heaven' if one then dies? The witch-doctor always stands next to the headman in any tribe!
flowerbower 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35 [cont] List pension; his inclusion will tarnish the memory of Faraday and others (Heaviside was also insane, but did not 'foul the nest' of science so). Instead, the Royal Society has awarded a Hauksbee medal to Evans' lap-dog, Pendergast. Surely no really good teacher would be associated with pseudoscience to such an extent!
I always put Sachs in the loony camp, due to an anti-relativistic paper which he wrote years ago
UFT always looks like mere 'begging the question' to me.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35 Yep, I did indeed mean Joseph Smith; the guy whose Mormon bible unaccountably contains lines from the King James' version ... which it supposedly pre-dates.
The funny thing about Evans is that every fault which he ascribes to others applies far more to himself: closed-minded, pseudoscientific, obsessed with social position, etc. The unfunny thing is that authorities take his side and really DO attempt to stifle valid criticism.
I would like to see someone rescind his Civil- ...
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower,
(continued)...I like some parts of his theory and would love it more chemists made contributions to physics, but he is incorrigibly quixotic. If only he'd look for another group! The idea of electric charge as spinning spacetime is very appealing, but his math is just wrong!
I just got "Physics of the Universe" by Mendel Sachs for Christmas. So far, Sachs' unified field theory looks promising.
P.S. I think you mean Joseph Smith, the Mormon founder.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@flowerbower,
It's possible, but I think the existence of Muhammad is even less likely than the existence of Jesus. At least there are a couple secular references to Jesus dating to about 100 A.D. With Muhammad, there is only one Byzantine account even resembling of the Battle of Mu'tah and that is from Theophanes, who wrote two centuries after the battle.
...But there some positive aspects in religion and the "god" concept.
Evans' math is wrong and he won't even listen to correction....
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35 You are 'preaching to the choir'. As an atheist, I do not believe that any of the religious founders existed (in the sense of having special powers). I think that they were all just conmen like John Smith and L.Ron Hubbard - plus perhaps some skill in conjuring (passed off as paranormality) like Uri Geller.
There does seem to be some evidence for the existence of M as a real person, but it makes him look rather sleazy: a sort of gigolo who had to find work when his client died.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower,
Mohammed never existed.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
Evans is keen on genealogy, and likes to claim - for instance - a distant relationship to Queen Elizabeth. Does this mean that he is also related to the prophet Mohammed? After all, she is.
No doubt Evans would ridicule this claim. However, it was made by Burke's Peerage back in 1986. How can he dismiss its authority without undermining the validity of his own entry in Burke?
flowerbower 2 years ago
If I were a spokeswoman for critical mainstream scientists (what Evans calls the 'fringe'), I would tell him that we have lost interest now that even the TGA and members of his own AIAS (themselves not too kosher) have realised what a humbug he his. Also, he should not take heart from the numbers of hits/downloads registered by his website. This does not reflect any belief in his theories; it is just that his antics are the academic/intellectual equivalent of a train-wreck. Who can resist ...?
flowerbower 2 years ago
Evans, in his blog of 17/02/10, asks where the 'fringe' has gone; by which he means the few mainstream scientists who have bothered to criticise him. I guess that they have lost interest, now that he is completely isolated and even other crackpots have disowned him.
flowerbower 2 years ago