Pain

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[pennsays]

This is a similar idea to Dollhouse.

[pennsays]

Have you guys seen the episode of The Simpsons where Homer was on Ambian?

[GoblinXXX]

Since animals can be trained with whips, they must remember and anticipate pain.

[drealgrin]

It's not difficult to think about at all.

Not too long ago infants used to have open heart surgery performed on them because "Babies can't feel/remember pain"

Right now Male babies are being genitally mutilated because "They won't remember it"

It's not a difficult thing to think about at all. Just because someone doesn't remember it that doesn't atone for it being done.

[grandmasterreggae]

@albinoman13bt Can you link me these studies?

[followingbreadcrumbs]

not only brain memory, but one could also talk of body and cellular memory. a lot of people say that body and cellular memory is impossible but i don't. interesting topic.

[albinoman13bt]

@GoblinXXX Not necessarily. We all develop behavior from our environment and might not know, ourselves, why we do it. You could be a good worker because you dad would beat you if you didnt do your chores. You might remember the beatings but not notice the effects. Many animals show dominance in painful ways, too. Oddly, you might be just inflicting enough pain to establish authority. I dont condone beating animals.

[albinoman13bt]

Studies have been done that show a chemical released while under pain actually helps your memory. I'll bet many of the vivid memories people have from their childhood are ones of pain. Nature has to figure out a way to make sure you don't touch the stove twice. I would be shocked to know other animals don't use this same way to "train" themselves. That being said, abuse is probably something you wouldn't forget then.

[mikerodeman]

I admire you Penn, but I hope you're not saying that animals don't remember pain. Because that is bullsh!t, all you have to do is look at an abused dog.

[contrajdubbl]

I think this is an utterly half-baked analysis. You should actually read Peter Singer, and then comment upon his positions. Then you wouldn't make the fatuous claim that animal rights would necessitate having animals follow laws they cannot understand. Is a retarded human being fit to be dissected and tortured at our whim because they don't comprehend the law? you should think through a topic a bit, and then bloviate, for better results.

[moqutpar]

Hope your friend gets better soon ;)

[GoblinXXX]

@GHollandESQ Some people even get married TWICE.

[GoblinXXX]

@Darth09 How do you type with those bear hands? They shouldn't be good for anything except stealing pic-a-nic baskets.

[GHollandESQ]

@GoblinXXX Humans, some even seek out pain... :)