God, Atheism and Evidence: The Follow-Up

A response to Noah's criticisms.

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[musli4brekkies]

@JojoTheJoCpuMaster

1: You just told me to stop thinking. Lol!

2: Show me the signs objectively and scientifically and I will convert on the spot.

3: Nobody created the world, the earth (and all the other planets) all formed from the accretion disc of the sun.

4: I agree, you can't make a world out of thin air, which coincidentally what your God apparently did. Go figure.

:)

[quicksilver3757]

@kareng5218 "Why you should believe it is that everyone will die and everyone will go to heaven or hell, it's our choice."

Once again all you're doing is making baseless assertions. How do you know that there even is a heaven or hell?

"Meaningless to me is not having faith in this life. "

And why exactly is faith a good thing? Why should I believe when I have no evidence or reason to support the belief?

"God's word is full of proof"

Good then you should have no problem providing some.

[guillatra]

I'm not a native enlish speaker, but isn't this "tin man"-Fallacy already known as rabulistic? If not, can you please describe, what you mean with it?

[mattgresh1]

@TheoreticalBullshit haha I love Alan Watts, sorry for random outburst... Share the philosophy not the hate.

[mattgresh1]

Religion can always be disproven with the notion that nature recycles all energy such as ourselves. When you waste energy believing in God or what ever, that energy is pointless for you to use. This is so because the world is a mechanism not a construct.

[Hanahleia]

@TheoreticalBullshit Jung was always concerned with these people who'd say, "Well, it's only the mind, it's only your psyche." He'd reply, "Well, I've got news for you, the psyche is all there is." Hindus have said this as well, that "consciousness is all there is." Now, I've never understood thoroughly what is meant by this, but "enlightenment" is always concerned with removing the sense of "I am." What is energy/consciousness? Have you been to w w w egodeath com or listened to Terence McKenna?

[TheoreticalBullshit]

@Hanahleia I have a deep-rooted affection for Alan Watts, because my parents used to have his books all over the house when I was a kid. I get where you're coming from. But I don't think you've made it clear to @MattAlexWatson that you aren't making claims about the nature of the cosmos, only subjective consciousness. It's a different state of cognition that our brains are capable of (with practice), and we have plenty of scientific data on it ( h t t p : / / b i t . l y / n W b A m t )

[Hanahleia]

@MattAlexWatson Well, would you consider this experience? I could attempt to answer your question, but it would be nonsensical to your ears or eyes if you haven't had the experience yourself. So, I'll leave you a suggestion instead:

/watch?v=Nrj1X6TzEXo&playnext=­1&list=PL4D35BC49277B6F49

I also recommend you search Alan Watts here on YouTube, if you haven't.

[Hanahleia]

@MattAlexWatson No, that's not what I'm saying. These "drugs" aren't like alcohol or marijuana, so you can't extrapolate your experience on marijuana to imagine what this is like. It's something utterly different. DMT (N,N-Dimethyltryptamine) is naturally produced in the brain. I think that's a major hint to the fact that these aren't as detrimental to your mental faculties that maybe propaganda or tv has led you to believe. In fact, during the experience, your cognitive capacity isn't affected.

[MattAlexWatson]

(contunued)

I won't find this ultimate truth in scientific, peer-reviewed articles because it's unfaslifiable nonsense.

And how do we know this about the truth?

[MattAlexWatson]

Of course. I'm a secret buddhist. You caught me.

So, now you're telling me that a good way to experience the ultimate truth is to actually destroy my mental faculties with illicit drugs? I'll admit that the video is quite interesting, but even with everything he says, there's still no way to tell the difference between delusion and genuine experience!

I've had my share of drugs, mostly alcohol and marajuana, but they just make me feel like a fool, make it easier for me to do things I regret.