12 Step Debating Techniques

12 steppers, this song is for you!

Category:

Comedy

Tags:

• alcoholics
• narcotics
• anonymous
• 12
• step
• cult

[scroff]

Sounds more like republicans than 12 steppers :)

[godlessweasel]

@scroff LMAO very similar animals :)

[OneDarkFlame1]

Bugger off, you bastards, bugger off!

LOL

[godlessweasel]

I am more than happy to be a 'dry drunk.' It's much more appealing than being a brainwashed, parrotting eejit.

[TheMamihilha]

:D

[supaoompaloompa]

@longwang2000 By your immature response, you still have a long way to go to recovery. Hope you find the strength to recover on your own will rather than by the pressures of the 12-step "family." Keep them around if you want but don't let them be the end all be all to the rest of your life resisting addiction.

[supaoompaloompa]

@longwang2000 The National Insitute On Drug Addiction, a MEDICALLY and EVIDENCE-BASED organization just released an article that states where 12-step fits in with addiction recovery, titled "Principles of Drug Addiction Treatment: A Reasearch-Based Guide." 12-step IS NOT a medically proven method of treatment, just a compliment to medical therapies & treatment pre-12-step group therapy. Check your FACTS. 12-step is NOT a genetic disease, its a MENTAL DISORDER.

[supaoompaloompa]

@anonymousgailbrown That same article that I mentioned does point out that 12-step does have a place in addiction recovery road but it's not a medically-backed source of recovery. It's a "complement" or "added layer" to recovery but its not medically supported, unlike what 12-step states through its dogma, indoctrination, and media propaganda. Look at the "Frequently Asked Questions" link, scroll to the bottom where it mentions 12-step.

[supaoompaloompa]

The National Institute On Drug Addiction just published an article titled "Principles of Drug Addiction Treatment: A RESEARCH-BASED Guide," click on "Principles of Effective Treatment" and go to #9 --> "Many drug-addicted individuals also have other mental disorders. Because drug abuse and addiction—both of which are MENTAL DISORDERS—often co-occur with other mental illnesses, patients presenting with one condition..."

[anonymousgailbrown]

On another of ur videos I posted HEAPS,as feel so strongly about it. I'm so glad there's a global movement against the 12 steps cults.They've caused guilt, feelings of failure 4 so many; & unrealistic beliefs r pushed, conformity encouraged. Brain washing is accepted (My brain needed washing), personality changes occur, myths perpetrated, science trotted out to a group that’s often under-educated & when told addiction is a disease of the body by other members, hey accept it as fact. A CULT sad.

[anonymousgailbrown]

Hi Godless Weasel, I'm a Godless Australian too, & proud of it! I'm a deprogrammed member of NA. I once threw myself into it,until I realised that GOD & addiction have NOTHING 2 DO WITH EACH OTHER.My friends didn't understand me.Of recent years lapsing members trust me with their truths, as I put it into perspective: u used? So u didn't kill anyone? Big deal!Most humans use SOME drug at some time, & the legal ones r worse than the illicit.Praying=doing NOTHING.Don't go 2 NA,its not working 4 u.