I have listed below studies that show genes cannot cause rising autism, that autism is directly related to brain damage caused by vaccines, & one of the greatest doctors of our time (Dr Bernadine Healy) stated "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable that the proper research has not been done"
You two haven't presented one piece of evidence or argument other than to list Offit's book. Offit has made 10s of MILLIONS from vaccines
@michael0156 What we need the most isn't further study, it's to recognize the study we have already made. The "vaccine causes autism" is a completely discredited hypothesis. Only one published paper was ever produced that support it and it was demonstrated to be a fraud and yet anti-vaccine people are still quoting it decades after the fact. Your movement is a danger to us all.
@michael0156 -All properly conducted studies have utterly failed to show a link between vaccines and autism. The burden of proof rests on the antivaxxer. See "Vaccines and Autism: A Tale of Shifting Hypotheses". The National Vaccine Injury Program does not give out money to those specifically affected by autism, but rather to those affected by those ailments which can be caused by vaccines by means of a plausible mechanism.
CBS News 2008 Dr Bernadine Healy "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable the proper research has not been done"
Dr Healy- former NIH director, Johns Hopkins Professor of Medicine, Cleveland Clinic Research Institute Chair. Her opinion is expert & relevant
Search- nellco autism -The records of 1000 children who were neurologically damaged by vaccines & compensated by the National Vaccine Injury Program were reviewed. 83 of them were also diagnosed with autism
He pretends my pointing out he is a shill for the drug industry is a lame argument. I am not using that as an argument, just pointing out he ignores evidence & supports lies from an industry that has sucked TRILLIONS of dollars out of our healthcare systems. It will lie, kill & destroy livelihoods to protect ill-gotten gains
Vioxx is 1 fraud (by Vax maker Merck) where Merck murdered over 45,000 Americans with a drug it KNEW was killing people
@michael0156 No wonder I don't remember you. One lone post on SBM, "WHO, H1N1, and Conflicts of Interest." Made after the thread was dead and just before the 60 day limit of comments. You really are afraid to debate without a character limit!
@michael0156 Ah, ha! I found you at LBRB, Wakefield, distortion and the Sunday Times, dated 3 July 2009 (plus a post and run on "John Stone/Polly Tommey claim oversight"). You are typified by saying "I am not going to change the minds of Sociopaths”. To which you got this reply: "With that one remark, you show that you are not interested in debating the issue, and simply attack anyone with a different opinion."
Which is why you troll year old youtube videos. You both lame and pathetic.
@michael0156 Ah, ha! I found you at LBRB, Wakefield, distortion and the Sunday Times, dated 3 July 2009 (plus a post and run on "John Stone/Polly Tommey claim oversight"). You are typified by saying "I am not going to change the minds of Sociopaths”. To which you got this reply: "With that one remark, you show that you are not interested in debating the issue, and simply attack anyone with a different opinion."
Which is why you troll year old youtube videos. You both lame and pathetic.
@michael0156 The Pharma Shill Gambit is just plain lame. I have not seen you attempt to debate anyone at LBRB or SBM. And besides, neither doctor posts at LBRB. So you must have gotten confused, gave up or Sullivan banned you LBRB for being totally lame (doesn't happen at SBM).
I saw you at C0nc0rdance.. and you were given papers, you ignored them and moved goal posts. You are really not worth debating, but you are very funny. Thanks for the laugh.
Pick your 2 best studies to support your ludicrous ideas about the vaccine/autisn link. List lead authors, sponsors, conflicts, summary.
I will show the studies are wrong, fraudulent, irrelevant, or too conflicted to be believed
The shills cannot prove vaccines are not associated with autism
Dr Bernadine Healy (NIH Director, Professor of Med, Chair of a Research Institute) says "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable the proper research has not been done"
@againstjeb & @Tamizushi
I have listed below studies that show genes cannot cause rising autism, that autism is directly related to brain damage caused by vaccines, & one of the greatest doctors of our time (Dr Bernadine Healy) stated "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable that the proper research has not been done"
You two haven't presented one piece of evidence or argument other than to list Offit's book. Offit has made 10s of MILLIONS from vaccines
Quote studies, use evidence
michael0156 1 month ago
@michael0156 What we need the most isn't further study, it's to recognize the study we have already made. The "vaccine causes autism" is a completely discredited hypothesis. Only one published paper was ever produced that support it and it was demonstrated to be a fraud and yet anti-vaccine people are still quoting it decades after the fact. Your movement is a danger to us all.
Tamizushi 1 month ago
@michael0156 -All properly conducted studies have utterly failed to show a link between vaccines and autism. The burden of proof rests on the antivaxxer. See "Vaccines and Autism: A Tale of Shifting Hypotheses". The National Vaccine Injury Program does not give out money to those specifically affected by autism, but rather to those affected by those ailments which can be caused by vaccines by means of a plausible mechanism.
againstjebelallawz 2 months ago
CBS News 2008 Dr Bernadine Healy "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable the proper research has not been done"
Dr Healy- former NIH director, Johns Hopkins Professor of Medicine, Cleveland Clinic Research Institute Chair. Her opinion is expert & relevant
Search- nellco autism -The records of 1000 children who were neurologically damaged by vaccines & compensated by the National Vaccine Injury Program were reviewed. 83 of them were also diagnosed with autism
This needs further study
michael0156 2 months ago
haynes posts w/o evidence, just insults & lies
He pretends my pointing out he is a shill for the drug industry is a lame argument. I am not using that as an argument, just pointing out he ignores evidence & supports lies from an industry that has sucked TRILLIONS of dollars out of our healthcare systems. It will lie, kill & destroy livelihoods to protect ill-gotten gains
Vioxx is 1 fraud (by Vax maker Merck) where Merck murdered over 45,000 Americans with a drug it KNEW was killing people
michael0156 5 months ago
@michael0156 No wonder I don't remember you. One lone post on SBM, "WHO, H1N1, and Conflicts of Interest." Made after the thread was dead and just before the 60 day limit of comments. You really are afraid to debate without a character limit!
cnhaynes57 5 months ago
@michael0156 Ah, ha! I found you at LBRB, Wakefield, distortion and the Sunday Times, dated 3 July 2009 (plus a post and run on "John Stone/Polly Tommey claim oversight"). You are typified by saying "I am not going to change the minds of Sociopaths”. To which you got this reply: "With that one remark, you show that you are not interested in debating the issue, and simply attack anyone with a different opinion."
Which is why you troll year old youtube videos. You both lame and pathetic.
cnhaynes57 5 months ago
@michael0156 Ah, ha! I found you at LBRB, Wakefield, distortion and the Sunday Times, dated 3 July 2009 (plus a post and run on "John Stone/Polly Tommey claim oversight"). You are typified by saying "I am not going to change the minds of Sociopaths”. To which you got this reply: "With that one remark, you show that you are not interested in debating the issue, and simply attack anyone with a different opinion."
Which is why you troll year old youtube videos. You both lame and pathetic.
cnhaynes57 5 months ago
@michael0156 The Pharma Shill Gambit is just plain lame. I have not seen you attempt to debate anyone at LBRB or SBM. And besides, neither doctor posts at LBRB. So you must have gotten confused, gave up or Sullivan banned you LBRB for being totally lame (doesn't happen at SBM).
I saw you at C0nc0rdance.. and you were given papers, you ignored them and moved goal posts. You are really not worth debating, but you are very funny. Thanks for the laugh.
cnhaynes57 5 months ago
I offer haynes the challenge
Pick your 2 best studies to support your ludicrous ideas about the vaccine/autisn link. List lead authors, sponsors, conflicts, summary.
I will show the studies are wrong, fraudulent, irrelevant, or too conflicted to be believed
The shills cannot prove vaccines are not associated with autism
Dr Bernadine Healy (NIH Director, Professor of Med, Chair of a Research Institute) says "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable the proper research has not been done"
michael0156 5 months ago