St. John's Tomb

The ruins of St. John's Basilica in Selcuk, Turkey. This is a rotating shot from the top of the "choir" area of the basilica ruins. John's tomb is the square marble area with the four pillars around it, seen at the beginning and end of the video.

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• John
• apostle
• Bible
• tomb
• basilica
• Christian
• ruins
• Christianity
• Ephesus
• Selcuk

[Archangelstwo]

@dcprime: I'm sorry, I wrote a little strongly. But it really is important. Call it inductive doubt, once you call into question the authorship of Revelation, it's only a small step away from calling into question the validity. There are people who question the validity of the Gospel According to Saint John, the same gospel in which is written that beloved verse (3:16). Don't you think it's just a little bit drastic to jump to such a conclusion based on mere speculation?

[dcprime]

@Archangelstwo : I actually have a hard time with the "slippery slope" argument. Just because you question one thing doesn't mean you have to question something else. Jesus caused the religious people of his time to question a whole range of their assumptions, and I have to believe it was for their good. Anyway, questioning the authorship of Revelation isn't based on mere speculation - there are extremely compelling reasons for doing so. Hopefully "examined truth" is the best option overall.

[Archangelstwo]

Actually, it's only Biblical scholars that say he didn't write Revelation.

He wrote Revelation, he wrote 3 epistles, and he wrote a gospel.

You're just some guy on youtube, but church tradition, which is handed down from the apostles, says John wrote it.

homb.org/resources/docs/Biblic­al-Archaeology.pdf

[dcprime]

@Archangelstwo : I appreciate your opinion, and you're certainly free to believe when you like. Certainly John was not an uncommon name in the 1st century, and if you value tradition over textual analysis, that's your prerogative. In the big picture, it doesn't really matter if John the Apostle wrote Revelation or not - the message of the book is what is important, and people have enough trouble sorting that out anyway. :)

[EGITAYE]

He wrote Revelation

[dcprime]

Actually, it's only church tradition that says he wrote Revelation. Most Biblical scholars think that Revelation was written by someone else, since the writing style is so different from the Gospel of John and John's letters.

As someone who has translated a good portion of John the Gospel, and all of 1st John (the letter), I agree that he did not write Revelation. It was probably John-Mark, who is mentioned in Acts.

[Archangelstwo]

@dcprime: It's not a "slippery slope" it's a tapestry, pull out one thread and it unravels. But I waste both my time and yours, neither arguing nor debating can change "assumptions" deeply rooted.