Prop 8: Five Little Lies

The first Yeson8-ProtectMarriage commercial tells five little lies...


For those interested, here are the sources...

California Supreme Court ruling on Marriage:
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/archive/S147999.PDF

- this is where I found that Proposition 22 was anything but ignored (search for the term and see how often it appears, notice that one of the parties involved is the Proposition 22 Legal Defense Fund); Proposition 22 states that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California" - in ruling in favor of same-sex couples, the court found this to be unconstitutional
- please also search for the quote I used in my second slide... clear religious exemptions that show that acceptance of same-sex marriage is anything but mandatory


California Supreme Court ruling on Non-discrimination:
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S142892.PDF

- this is the first court case that is cited in the ad; here is the opening paragraph...

"Do the rights of religious freedom and free speech, as guaranteed in both the federal and the California Constitutions, exempt a medical clinic's physicians from complying with the California Unruh Civil Rights Act's prohibition against discrimination based on a person's sexual orientation? Our answer is no."

See anything about marriage in that? Nope. See anything about the Unruh Civil Rights Act? Yip.


Article on Religious Tax-Exemptions:
http://www.gaylesbiantimes.com/?id=12530

- this is the article that is cited in the ad; here is the quote that the article itself highlights...

"We view religious groups as deserving of tax-exempt status because they are not political and provide charity to so many. But when they cross the line and become political, they jeopardize the public subsidy they enjoy."

See anything about religious groups losing tax-exempt status for not recognizing same-sex marriages? Nope. See anything about religious groups losing tax-exempt status for actively working on ballot initiatives? Yip.


California Education Code:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.html/edc_table_of_contents.html

- this is the code that regulates education in California
- the ad makes the claim that as a result of the marriage ruling, same-sex marriage will be taught in public schools; in reality, education in California is governed by the California Education Code; it governs what students should and shouldn't learn and encourages broad community and parent participation in determining what's appropriate; it also includes strong exemptions for parents; regardless of the marriage ruling and regardless of Prop 8, students may or may not learn about families with same-sex parents and may or may not learn that in some jurisdictions same-sex parents can get married; the only difference the ruling and Prop 8 make is that IF students learn about these things, they will learn that California is one of the jurisdictions where same-sex marriage is or isn't legal.


Proposition 8 Title and Summary:
http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/title-sum/prop8-title-sum.htm

- this is the official voter guide; take a gander at the title; Prop 8 seeks to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry.

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[newyorkfan16]

OMG, this video is perfect for my reasearch, can I use as a reference plz?

[BruinUnderground]

@newyorkfan16 Absolutely - glad you found it helpful!

[MrJJ6640]

the us it based on equal rights for all not some ALL PEOPLE if u think gay couples cant marry you are unamerican because u are trying to take others RIGHTS that they should have

[IcedCoffee81]

@Patriot0509 So true. When I took a course in gender studies hoping to learn more about the social issues regarding men and women, of course my radical leftist professors would bring up the crafty concept of gender diversity, arguing that there are more than two sexes and that men can be like women and women can be like men. That sure sounds like a queer agenda to me! Don't ever let your children major in gender studies because "gender studies" is a formal, sophisticated term for SEX studies.

[IcedCoffee81]

@Patriot0509 So true. When I took a course in gender studies hoping to learn more about the social issues regarding men and women, of course my radical leftist professors would bring up the crafty concept of gender diversity, arguing that there are more than two sexes and that men can be like women and women can be like men. That sure sounds like a queer agenda to me! Don't ever let your children major in gender studies because "gender studies" is a formal, sophisticated term for SEX studies.

[Patriot0509]

@gte87 well they are pushing hte homosexual agenda on children as early as kindergarten. books being used such as "daddys roomate" look it up. the school system is changing as you can see.

[Patriot0509]

@IcedCoffee81 exactly right. theyre open minded until you disagree with them

[IcedCoffee81]

SO WHAT! Why is being a leftist even associated with being open minded? Liberal and tree hugging hippies MUST UNDERSTAND that BEING OPPOSED to conservativism ALSO qualifies them as being one sided! I have a BA in sociology and learned in my classes that 1 out of 1,800 people are born hermaphrodites and/or intersexed in variety of ways. BUT, 1 out of 2 people are STILL born either as male or female. I believe in equality between men and women but there is no need for the queer agenda.

[gte87]

This is an awesome video! Thank you so much....you've given me fresh points for my arguments. And I would like to say something in regard to those people who think this will be taught in schools...In all my years of school (elementary-high school) not once did the subject of marriage ever come up. The subjects taught in schools are math, English, foreign languages, music, P.E., History, Science, etc....none of which pertains to marraige....so what's the worry then?

[mikeyrobins022585]

Stupid video. the no on 8 had more lies!

[Adriah777]

Dear People That Fight On YouTube

Blah Blah Blah.

S'all I see here as I read all these comments. I mean COME ON, this is YouTube, a place for entertainment, can you PLEASE find somewhere else to argue about your opinion? Thanks a bunch.

Sincerely, I Just Came Here For Music

[TheAnnoyingThing1915]

Has New York ridden into Anarchy because they allowed gay marriage? No? I wonder what would happen if it was legal in California. Hmmmm.