Free Will vs. Omniscience

Can free will exist if there is a being which already knows the outcome of future events?

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[DaToNyOyO]

Here's on for you: Jesus said that your prayers will be answered. Not might be; WILL be.

So where does that leave god's plan?

Every time you pray, do you screw up his plan? Or does he ignore you? Or is your prayer already foreseen? In which case, why pray at all? If it's already part of the plan you shouldn't need to, and the offer of fulfilling your prayers was a hollow one.

None of this religion, or any other, actually adds up. None of it.

[JAKEHARRIS281]

@lostallmymirth 1 John 4:14 says God sent Christ to be the SAVIOR OF THE WORLD. That IS the ultimate plan of God. Rom 8:21 says that the WHOLE CREATION will one day become the Sons of God, of course after they bow their knee, confess Christ, and learn righteousness. He is the savior of even those who don't believe (I Tim 4:10), however that doesn't mean they will enter heaven AS THEY ARE, no their flesh must be consumed by the fire of God. Fire associated with Judgment is spiritual (I Cor 3:15).

[JAKEHARRIS281]

@lostallmymirth When he says "depart from me into eonian fire," they are departing to Earth. The Fire is the word and law of God ((Deut 33:2, Jer 23:29) which they will be taught after the first resurrection. "For when thy Judgments are in the Earth, the WORLD WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Isa 26:9). Don't you get that Christ words are Spiritual which means SYMBOLISM. In John 15 he speaks of the farmer, the vine, branches, and fire. Not literal. Farmer is the father, the vine is Christ etc.

[JAKEHARRIS281]

@lostallmymirth So we have: "what man, what woman, a certain man, a certain rich man, a certain rich man." It is so unmistakably clear that this five-part parable is all related to one another by the very first words of each presentation that it defies human comprehension to believe that even one theologian could or would argue that the first four examples are parables, but the fifth example is not. That is carnal spiritual stubbornness on a par to be envied by Satan himself.

[JAKEHARRIS281]

@lostallmymirth You need to start with my first comment if you haven't already. [1] "what man of you..." (Luke 15:4-7)--this is the first part of "this parable."

[2] "Either what woman..." (Luke 15:8-10)--this is the second part.

[3] "And He said, a certain man..." (Luke 15:11-32)--this is the third part.

[4] "There was a certain rich man..." (Lk. 16:1-13)--and this is the fourth part.

[5] "There was a certain rich man..." (Luke 16:19-31)--and this the final part.

[JAKEHARRIS281]

@lostallmymirth "And He [Jesus] spoke this parable [consisting of five different examples] unto them." The "them" being the 'publicans and sinners' of verse 1, and the 'Pharisees,' 16:14. Jesus always and only spoke to the multitudes in public, in PARABLES, Matt. 13:34. "And He spoke this parable unto them...Continuing is next post.

[JAKEHARRIS281]

@lostallmymirth Continuing with the dogs and crumbs symbolism. Matt 16:24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread [The word of God that the Jews have], and to cast it to dogs [Gentiles]. 27And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. The Girl is a GENTILE.

[JAKEHARRIS281]

@lostallmymirth You can believe that people are alive in sheol/hades but if you do, your interpretation CONTRADICTS Psalm 6:5 and MANY other verses. "Whatsoever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave [Heb: sheol], where you go"(Ecclesiastes 9:10). How can someone be alive in sheol with no knowledge, remembrance, reason, etc. Come on use your brain brother. Christ words are spiritual (John 6:63). Not literal fire.