Helmut Berger; Ludwig
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sarebbe stato un Heatcliff perfetto, indimenticabile <3
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@windstorm1000 whether if it was a straight or gay couple i feel that, if the director is talented enough and the story/actors good enough then the words, looks etc can say much more than a kiss. and, i know you didn't mention sex scenes, but the use of them is often vulgar and uneeded.
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@IluvKenji and what about straight couples/movies? yes, I can see your point of view a bit--as a gay man, I personally would have enjoyed a bit more intimacy. And I have to disagree--kissing/hugging (I didn't say sex) would have added something--my opinion vs. yours. a new movie on this great king, I know in my heart, will include more.
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@windstorm1000 i know its part of who he was, but kissing etc is not always needed in film to show desire etc. As i see it, i understood Ludwig's homosexual nature the way visconti has chosen to show it. Kissing/sex scenes wouldn't really have added anything, when it is already easy to construe from what is onscreen that these men are wanted by/lovers to Ludwig.
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@IluvKenji why not necessary? it was part of who he was---
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@windstorm1000 well it is true that there was only one very chaste gay kiss (and that was silhoutted in shadow i think) but it was obvious why he wanted these men around, and his feelings for them. I don't think kissing was necessary?
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@IluvKenji You mistconstrued what I was saying. How about kissing a man? His lover? And he had several---I looked in vain for this in the film.
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@sumeragi01 the film is lovely..but Helmut is 65 now..and very grazy..
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@windstorm1000 um, visconti's version does not avoid ludwig's gay leanings. just because there wasn't explicit shagging all over the place doesn't mean he avoided it.
This is so far the most beautiful video on Youtube.
Cinemadaptation 2 years ago 21
very good :D Helmut is very cute and good actor
elggoh 2 years ago 17