@bollox679 And we need to use the NET to challenge the preconcieved bollox that has been passed down/brainwashed/taught come on it is the 21st cent! we need to use our technologey and inteligence to brake this cycle of lies and teach science and ask questions about history and not be stopped by names(anti semite/racsist/unbeliver)WTF
let us deal in truth and fact,faith has a place in 2days world but not the controlling interest!
I just do not get your meaning? I was brought uup a practicing Catholic,and it was a barbaric load of hypocracy,the christian brothers beat the shite out of me while preaching love and peace and turn the other cheeck,Islam teaches the same lies also Zionist Jews,sorry all Jewsih teachings, all religion is a mishmash of history/peoples and places,"if god did not exist man would create him" a fine true statement(sorry can not think who said it)
Our world today is controlled by a % of elite scum
@bollox679 The question you asked has an answer. Catholic doctrine & Jewish doctrine together held Jews were to wander the planet. The true "enemies" of the Church down until the Protestant Reformation's success were the heretics, who burned at the stake. The Church did not expel the Jews-that was always done for political reasons-but its theology accepted expulsion as part of God's plan.
@bollox679 but please come on each race/tribe/religion throughout history has adapted,encompassed/kept what was pertinent to the winners/conquers and could be used to the advantage of the triumphant victor.
Do not take each sura/haddith/parable as gosplel(sorry could not resist it)
Cathars/Roseicruxions/Templars/freemasons whatever,you can read,research and
confirm from multiple sources your own TRUTH, history is wrote by the winners!
@P1B1U1H1 Wow,respect for your repartition of the Bible,do you undertand that the bible was re/wrote many times thru history,the King James Bible for instance,olde english translation/to latin,french or what every language each translation was literal,i,e some monk,semi literate pious preist gave his/their interpritation to the scriptures,most of these handmedown fable/tails,(the epic of Gilgamesh/cuneform script/evolved into Noa and the arc,come on mate I dont doubt ur intelligence
@bollox679 from the world by death. For Jerome commenting on Galatians 5:9, "A little leaven," says: "Cut off the decayed flesh, expel the mangy sheep from the fold, lest the whole house, the whole paste, the whole body, the whole flock, burn, perish, rot, die. Arius was but one spark in Alexandria, but as that spark was not at once put out, the whole earth was laid waste by its flame."
________
Earlier, St. Thomas distinguished the unbelief of Pagans (eg., Muslims) & Jews from heretics.
On the part of the Church, however, there is mercy which looks to the conversion of the wanderer, wherefore she condemns not at once, but "after the first and second admonition," as the Apostle directs: after that, if he is yet stubborn, the Church no longer hoping for his conversion, looks to the salvation of others, by excommunicating him and separating him from the Church, and furthermore delivers him to the secular tribunal to be exterminated thereby
@bollox679 whereby they deserve not only to be separated from the Church by excommunication, but also to be severed from the world by death. For it is a much graver matter to corrupt the faith which quickens the soul, than to forge money, which supports temporal life. Wherefore if forgers of money and other evil-doers are forthwith condemned to death by the secular authority, much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated
@bollox679 You'll find this from St. Thomas quite fascinating. It's in parts:
On the contrary, The Apostle says (Titus 3:10-11): "A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted."
I answer that, With regard to heretics two points must be observed: one, on their own side; the other, on the side of the Church. On their own side there is the sin,
@bollox679 Persecuting heretics was defending God; this behavior, now considered, quite bizarre, was standard thinking of the Church. Disability for Jews came from early Christian teaching, now thankfully abandoned, that Jews bore hereditary guilty for deicide. Of the five major types of heretics, only the "heretic contumacious (who absconded)" was not executed within five days. The most interesting heretics were the Cathars, who wrote some of the loveliest poems in history.
@bollox679 And we need to use the NET to challenge the preconcieved bollox that has been passed down/brainwashed/taught come on it is the 21st cent! we need to use our technologey and inteligence to brake this cycle of lies and teach science and ask questions about history and not be stopped by names(anti semite/racsist/unbeliver)WTF
let us deal in truth and fact,faith has a place in 2days world but not the controlling interest!
bollox679 2 months ago
I just do not get your meaning? I was brought uup a practicing Catholic,and it was a barbaric load of hypocracy,the christian brothers beat the shite out of me while preaching love and peace and turn the other cheeck,Islam teaches the same lies also Zionist Jews,sorry all Jewsih teachings, all religion is a mishmash of history/peoples and places,"if god did not exist man would create him" a fine true statement(sorry can not think who said it)
Our world today is controlled by a % of elite scum
bollox679 2 months ago
@bollox679 The question you asked has an answer. Catholic doctrine & Jewish doctrine together held Jews were to wander the planet. The true "enemies" of the Church down until the Protestant Reformation's success were the heretics, who burned at the stake. The Church did not expel the Jews-that was always done for political reasons-but its theology accepted expulsion as part of God's plan.
P1B1U1H1 2 months ago
@bollox679 but please come on each race/tribe/religion throughout history has adapted,encompassed/kept what was pertinent to the winners/conquers and could be used to the advantage of the triumphant victor.
Do not take each sura/haddith/parable as gosplel(sorry could not resist it)
Cathars/Roseicruxions/Templars/freemasons whatever,you can read,research and
confirm from multiple sources your own TRUTH, history is wrote by the winners!
who controls our media/banks/MPs/senators u know!
bollox679 2 months ago
@P1B1U1H1 Wow,respect for your repartition of the Bible,do you undertand that the bible was re/wrote many times thru history,the King James Bible for instance,olde english translation/to latin,french or what every language each translation was literal,i,e some monk,semi literate pious preist gave his/their interpritation to the scriptures,most of these handmedown fable/tails,(the epic of Gilgamesh/cuneform script/evolved into Noa and the arc,come on mate I dont doubt ur intelligence
bollox679 2 months ago
@bollox679 from the world by death. For Jerome commenting on Galatians 5:9, "A little leaven," says: "Cut off the decayed flesh, expel the mangy sheep from the fold, lest the whole house, the whole paste, the whole body, the whole flock, burn, perish, rot, die. Arius was but one spark in Alexandria, but as that spark was not at once put out, the whole earth was laid waste by its flame."
________
Earlier, St. Thomas distinguished the unbelief of Pagans (eg., Muslims) & Jews from heretics.
P1B1U1H1 2 months ago
@bollox679 but even put to death.
On the part of the Church, however, there is mercy which looks to the conversion of the wanderer, wherefore she condemns not at once, but "after the first and second admonition," as the Apostle directs: after that, if he is yet stubborn, the Church no longer hoping for his conversion, looks to the salvation of others, by excommunicating him and separating him from the Church, and furthermore delivers him to the secular tribunal to be exterminated thereby
P1B1U1H1 2 months ago
@bollox679 whereby they deserve not only to be separated from the Church by excommunication, but also to be severed from the world by death. For it is a much graver matter to corrupt the faith which quickens the soul, than to forge money, which supports temporal life. Wherefore if forgers of money and other evil-doers are forthwith condemned to death by the secular authority, much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated
P1B1U1H1 2 months ago
@bollox679 You'll find this from St. Thomas quite fascinating. It's in parts:
On the contrary, The Apostle says (Titus 3:10-11): "A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted."
I answer that, With regard to heretics two points must be observed: one, on their own side; the other, on the side of the Church. On their own side there is the sin,
P1B1U1H1 2 months ago
@bollox679 Persecuting heretics was defending God; this behavior, now considered, quite bizarre, was standard thinking of the Church. Disability for Jews came from early Christian teaching, now thankfully abandoned, that Jews bore hereditary guilty for deicide. Of the five major types of heretics, only the "heretic contumacious (who absconded)" was not executed within five days. The most interesting heretics were the Cathars, who wrote some of the loveliest poems in history.
P1B1U1H1 2 months ago