The Compromise of J. I. Packer

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About CWRC Ministries
http://www.cwrc-rz.org/about.php
Evangelicals & Catholics Together: The Christian Mission in the Third Millennium
The following statement is the product of consultation, beginning in September 1992, between Evangelical Protestant and Roman Catholic Christians. Appended to the text is a List of participants in the consul-tation and of others who have given their support to this declaration. http://www.cwrc-rz.org/documents/ect.php
PARTICIPANTS:
Mr. Charles Colson Prison Fellowship
Fr. Juan Diaz-Vilar, S.J. Catholic Hispanic Ministries
Fr. Avery Dulles, S.J. Forciham University
Bishop Francis George, OMI Diocese of Yakima (Washington)
Dr. Kent Hill Eastern Nazarene College
Dr. Richard Land Christian Life Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention
Dr. Larrv Lewis Home Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention
Dr. Jesse Miranda Assemblies of God
Msgr. William Murphy Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Boston
Fr. Richard John Neuhaus Institute on Reli-gion and Public Life
Mr. Brian O'Connell World Evangelical Fellowship
Mr. Herbert Schlossberg Fieldstead Foun-dation
Archbishop Francis Stafford Archdiocese of Denver
Mr. George Weigel Ethics and Public Policv Center
Dr. John White Geneva College and the National Association of Evangelicals

ENDORSED BY:
Dr. William Abraham Perkins School of Theology
Dr. Elizabeth Achtemeier Union Theological Seminary (Virginia)
Mr. William Bentley Ball Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Dr. Bill Bright Campus Crusade for Christ
Professor Robert Destro Catholic University of America
Fr. Augustine DiNoia, O.P. Dominican House of Studies
Fr. Joseph P. Fitzpatrick, S.J. Fordham University
Mr. Keith Fournier American Center for Law and Justice
Bishop William Frey Trinity Episcopal School for Ministrv
Professor Mary Ann Glendon Harvard Law School
Dr. Os Guinness Trinity Forum
Dr. Nathan Hatch Universitv of Notre Dame
Dr. James Hitchcock St. Louis University
Professor Peter Kreeft Boston College
Fr. Matthew Lamb Boston College
Mr. Ralph Martin Renewal Ministries
Dr. Richard Mouw Fuller Theological Seminary
Dr. Mark Noll Wheaton College
Mr. Michael Novak Anierican Enterprise Institute
John Cardinal O'Connor Archdiocese of New York
Dr. Thomas Oden Drew University
Dr. James J. I. Packer Regent College (British Columbia)
The Rev. Pat Robertson Regent University
Dr. John Rodgers Trinity Episcopal School for Ministry
Bishop Carlos A. Sevilla, S.J. Archiocese of San Francisco

Analysis of the E.C.T. STATEMENT
http://www.cwrc-rz.org/articles/article-003.php

In 2008 Packer wrote an endorsement for a book called 'Creation or Evolution: Do We have to Choose?' by Denis Alexander. The book advocates theistic evolution and is critical of Intelligent Design. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._I._Packer

He was ordained a deacon (1952) and priest (1953) in the Church of England

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  • Does not the Catholic catechism say that anyone believing in faith alone i.e. without works should be anathema. The beliefs of Catholics are not in any way related tohte Jesus of Scripture. Their faith is not Scriptural- if they are Christian they should leave the Catholic church

  • Let's all get together with everyone and sing Kumbaya.

    Why don't we add the Muslims into the mix too like Rick Warren's doing... Doesn't all this ecumenism and universalism just break your heart?

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  • @pianohbc i think that might be their safeguard against being the object of such rebukes as "faith without works is dead" james 2;14 etc. nevertheless, in the context of the rest of Roman Catholic doctrine, this statement is referring to salvation being earned by works; it does not subsume the biblical sense of a true faith evidencing itself through fruit and deeds done out of love and as a result of a new life.

  • you are one of the most gentle american pastors ive ever heard. good work

  • @Strefanasha Do you know how to become a Christian?

  • catholics were always more honest than we are. we hide our unbelief behind statements of sound doctrine. the catholics do not.

    what shows our unbelief? our very lives themselves.

    so let us not denounce Rome too thoroughly, that was only the pot calling the kettle black

  • I ceased to respect Packer when i looked at his book on the Puritans, "among god's giants."

    he takes quotes of pure legalism by them eg "we may NEVER RELAX lest sin rise and destroy us" and enthusiastically endorses them.

    Packer does not know his subject.

    therefore he does not know the Lord, I dont care that he is an icon, a bgi name, he is a heretic for this endorsement of legalism, even if he never supported ecumenical union with Rome

  • looking at our fruit the catholics and protestants are as christian as each other, and that is not very much at all

    evangelicals and catholics are brothers and sisters in UNBELIEF. Rome is not my home and i will never go there, not now, but the other churches are as bankrupt as Rome, or do we think that a few scraps of sound doctrine are what makes the different

  • @kkallebb The Popes dress is also to long & he needs a better dress maker.

  • @Dystopiologist anathema means accursed

  • I dont want to have anything to do with the RCC System

    Its a spiritual dead duck that for centuries murdered untold millions of true Christians that would not bow to the Pope or accept the anti biblical teachings of Rome

    RCC dont preach the true Gospel message that when heard believed & appropriated saves that person

    I reject RCC as a false religion why would I again be yoked with this Satanic System I have nothing in common with those who blindly trust such a System & a man in fancy dress

  • @pianohbc Do you know what "anathema" means? It simply means "excommunicated" - kicked out of the Church - which is exactly what happens when one doesn't believe in what the Church teaches.

    It is NOT necessarily a condemnation to hell, as you imply.

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