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Tony takes the Gospel to the students of Cal State Long Beach.
The Police showed up, kindly permitted us to finish up and then informed us of a "Time, Place & Manner Law" that would restrict us from continuing with the open-air preaching in a lawful manner. Basically the restrictions would prohibit us from preaching anywhere a crowd would be capable of gathering to listen. At least the cops let us finish though!
PRAISE JESUS SON OF GOD AND HIS SOON COMING KINGDOM
sutonchef 1 month ago
Good job brother, so sad to see some of those young people walking away from the Truth. Great work !
whydidJesussaveme 1 year ago
@ChristianVoice08 ok man yeah whatever. you've clearly not understood a word i've said.
peace be with you.
mindDefyButtin 1 year ago
@mindDefyButtin
WE DID YOU BOOB. It's written down in 27 books by eyewitnesses and their scribes and you say we never heard about it???
He is referenced in the Jewish Talmud as a evil magician because He raised the dead and by Josephus as "probably the Messiah". His brother was referenced by Josephus who was a Pharisee who had rejected Jesus as Messiah originally. There were over 500 witnesses to His appearance after death and ascension into heaven.
ChristianVoice08 1 year ago
@mindDefyButtin
You are working from a self-refuting world view that has no epistemological foundation to ground your apparent misplaced faith in science. Nice try but be consistent. A world view that can't be lived consistently ain't really a world view.
You need to research Jesus if you do not accept Him historically. Try "The Historical Jesus" by Norman Geisler for starters. We don't make faith based claims about His existence. It is recorded history. Find out for yourself.
ChristianVoice08 1 year ago
@mindDefyButtin
THEY ARE! Epistemology is epistemology. Unlike YOU, I can know things. You cannot establish a foundation for your beliefs without making foundational "assumptions" as you call them. Well, my presuppositions are in complete conformity with the universe! They explain and do not contradict science or reality as I know it. You can't boast that. You can't explain the universe or prove that you exist to me if you are holding to atheism or agnosticism.
ChristianVoice08 1 year ago
@ChristianVoice08 jesus was a man. purpotedly gods son or god himself made flesh...correct? a physical being...died....rose from the dead, walked around for a bit & chilled with his mates & then ascended into heaven. now if he'd have made it back to earth somehow i'm sure we'd've all heard about it. no?
so how come he came back to live in you without telling everyone else he was coming?
mindDefyButtin 1 year ago
@ChristianVoice08 well based on the assumptions you're making i can fully understand why you think it's absurd...but it isn't.
i'm not convinced that the stories about jesus and the bible are all entirely accurate or correct.
also, are you saying that the search for god and the study of physical, measurable, repeatable & attestable properties are one & the same thing to be gone about in exactly the same way? that's absurd my friend.
mindDefyButtin 1 year ago
@mindDefyButtin CONT Eyewitnesses write down what they see and it stays unchanged for 1900 years and the witnesses die w/o recanting and you don't want to accept what they say because you would have to quit sinning??? What hypocrisy. You just threw out ALL history, ALL science, ALL recent science (because you aren't present at every experiment to verify the results are the way they are stated in the reported results in the journal) and even CURRENT NEWS! How absurd is that?
ChristianVoice08 1 year ago
@mindDefyButtin
YES, His name is Jesus! He lives in me. He has healed me and He guides me.
Now as for you hidden argument (i.e. only prima fascia facts are real facts), you wish me to believe that you accept science texts which change every few years but will disregard 66 books non of which have changed in 1900 years and some which have not changed in 4000 years??? What hypocrisy. Eyewitnesses write down what they see and it stays unchanged for 1900 years and the witnesses die w/o recanting
ChristianVoice08 1 year ago