Zen Quotes Koans & Wise Sayings

Zen Quotes Koans & Wise Sayings

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[Zypher77777]

@wallofvideo Fair enough. Ultimately the Zen school of thought wants you to challenge rational thinking, not necessarily abandon it altogether. I completely understand your point of view on this regardless. In the end all Zen wants you to do is think outside of the box :P (or to realize that there is no box...or that the box is only in your mind...or that your mind is the box...or that the box is your mind...you get the idea ;) )

[wallofvideo]

@Zypher77777 my acquaintance with zen buddhism is rather superficial. what little i've read on the subject has led me to believe that zen buddhism seeks to accommodate a departure from rational thought processes, towards a facilitation of enlightenment. hence, i concluded that the irrational constitutes an important aspect of zen.

[Zypher77777]

@wallofvideo Thank you. It's refreshing to have an intelligent conversation on Youtube for a change. I unfortunately do not completely follow you on irrationality being an important aspect of Zen. Please elaborate. I will say that Zen though is very paradoxical in its teachings. It strives not necessarily to make logical sense but to have an individual rise above conventional thinking and consequently better him/herself by challenging one's own mind and preconceived notions about the world.

[wallofvideo]

@Zypher77777 that's a well thought-out response. although i wonder why any problem-solving efforts would necessarily assume "a rational manner" - - is not the irrational an important aspect of zen buddhism?

[Zypher77777]

@wallofvideo Thus if the Zen Buddhist sees exploitation of a 3rd world country (and such exploitation is not the product of his or her own personal thoughts projected) he/she is called to do what they can to solve the problem in a rational manner.. Unfortunately there will be some who claim that this is not the point and that one's only goal should be satori (enlightenment)...personally I think this is a selfish approach to Zen.. this is my dogma on the matter. Take it or leave it.

[Zypher77777]

@wallofvideo I absolutely see how you can interpret these sayings as such. Zen comes from the perspective that normally its audience is attached to worldly desires (money, sex, etc.). Yet because Zen goes so far in its teachings to try to remove this "attachment" it more often than not gives the illusion of lending itself to "becoming excuses for a disengagement from any struggle.." In reality Zen seeks to have one's mind see the world in a purely unbiased manner.

[wallofvideo]

these are uplifting sayings. but don't they lend themselves to becoming excuses for a disengagement from any struggle for an egalitarian distribution of material resources? might not first worlders use these sayings as an excuse for allowing the everyday exploitation of third worlders to continue unchallenged?

[nedbless]

beautiful

[JESODIST]

THE DAY HUMANS WILL BE JUDGED BY GOD.

[xhemexx]

@JESODIST What judgment day