I was excited by this video and embarassed by the other comments. I was shocked that people are fighting these statistics with excuses like " adults don't have time to make pointless lists" and " adults have experienced paper clips, learned limitations and therefore the test is useless for them". don't you see this is the point he is making? While the test seems trivial, the results are not. Creativity and ingenuity should be valued and supported more instead of conforming to society's norms.
(Just to finish) separately. I wish Sir Ken would stop slagging public schools based on his 1950's experience. Professional autonomy is vital to good teaching, counterintuitive as that may be. Reformers take note!
Adults have experienced paper clips, and learned limitations. The test is useless for them. Get a divergent thinker to devise new questions. Ask the 25 year olds to come back with a list in a few days and they'll be waking before dawn and jotting down a zillion ideas. It's the testers who have a problem here. You can't stop divergent thinking... it has a mind of its own!
By the way, I think Sir Ken is over rated not as a speaker, but as a thinker. Presenting and thinking are better done separa
@jjducks, the lists experiment mentioned is a tool to measure divergent thought, not how it works. Think of it as questioning the parameters of the question.
Interesting, but perhaps not so clear-cut. First, kindergarteners have seemingly limitless time. Adults have spent much time considering many choices so that our minds have necessarily adapted to convergent thinking, uncluttered from endless possibilities. Conversely, if we had limited time with nothing to decide, would we think ourselves more intelligent by making endless list? Practically speaking time for limitless divergent thinking is a luxury allowed academics and kindergatners.
I was excited by this video and embarassed by the other comments. I was shocked that people are fighting these statistics with excuses like " adults don't have time to make pointless lists" and " adults have experienced paper clips, learned limitations and therefore the test is useless for them". don't you see this is the point he is making? While the test seems trivial, the results are not. Creativity and ingenuity should be valued and supported more instead of conforming to society's norms.
Rmk8240 1 week ago
(Just to finish) separately. I wish Sir Ken would stop slagging public schools based on his 1950's experience. Professional autonomy is vital to good teaching, counterintuitive as that may be. Reformers take note!
kfgrich 1 month ago
Adults have experienced paper clips, and learned limitations. The test is useless for them. Get a divergent thinker to devise new questions. Ask the 25 year olds to come back with a list in a few days and they'll be waking before dawn and jotting down a zillion ideas. It's the testers who have a problem here. You can't stop divergent thinking... it has a mind of its own!
By the way, I think Sir Ken is over rated not as a speaker, but as a thinker. Presenting and thinking are better done separa
kfgrich 1 month ago
@jjducks, the lists experiment mentioned is a tool to measure divergent thought, not how it works. Think of it as questioning the parameters of the question.
AudibleTheSignature 3 months ago
smart
copperandmetal 4 months ago
Interesting, but perhaps not so clear-cut. First, kindergarteners have seemingly limitless time. Adults have spent much time considering many choices so that our minds have necessarily adapted to convergent thinking, uncluttered from endless possibilities. Conversely, if we had limited time with nothing to decide, would we think ourselves more intelligent by making endless list? Practically speaking time for limitless divergent thinking is a luxury allowed academics and kindergatners.
jjducks 4 months ago
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mummamix 2 years ago