I'm impressed by John Lennox's open mindedness. He has explored some of the issues, to look at both sides. His view might be tolerable if everyone was going to a happily ever after. I have faith & hope that there is no hades [ would people meet the Titans there?] , to cease to exist seems ok to me; this was the fate which the Hebrews imagined Yahweh had in mind for them- sheol-non existence.
For the truth about religion try Robert M. Price, ' The reason driven life ' or John W. Loftus or Victor J. Stenger, ' God, the failed hypothesis' . Also interesting to have a look at the 1500BCE papyrus of Ani, with its god Osiris who weighs the heart to decide who can pass to the land of the living.[ The need to know the names of the gods & the negative confession & other magic texts to get there]. James Frazer's 'The Golden Bough' and C.S. Lewis, 'Mere Christianity'
John Lennox said he doesn't like the idea of living in a dangerous, violent Universe that is indifferent to the plight of those who suffer. He feels an emotional need for hope and justice, he feels a need to be reunited with dead loved ones.
Well, wishing doesn't alter the facts. And he admitted that there is no intellectual answer to the Problem of Suffering.
For a plausible reason for the existence of suffering, and a genuine offer of hope, see the YouTube video 'God says sorry'.
Professor Lennox missed the point of the problem of evil. It's not about the existence of a God, it's not about applying justice or a future salvation. It's about the existence of evil and an omnibenevolent, omnipotent and omniscient being, especially if that being is the creator of all things - if that being never desires evil, always desires to prevent the existence of evil, can do everything it desires (and do it) and knows how to accomplish what it desires, then there's no evil.
@johnsmithbsc You agree that atheist have a delusion? What do you mean the universe isn't the way we would expect it without God? Also clearify without God we would expect the non-existence of life? Life is in existence so why would you say we expect non-existence of life, your logic isn't clear here, can you clearify?
He didn't answer that very well. All that talk about hope just reinforces the atheist delusion that religion is just a crutch to help people emotionally. The simple answer to his question (even without going into the Bible's answer to the question of suffering, which Lennox didn't really put across either) is that no, the universe isn't the way we would expect it without God - without God we would expect the non-existence of life.
Very powerful,thank you
buddy85442 2 months ago
awesome, john!
madenew000 2 months ago in playlist More videos from PublicChristianity
I'm impressed by John Lennox's open mindedness. He has explored some of the issues, to look at both sides. His view might be tolerable if everyone was going to a happily ever after. I have faith & hope that there is no hades [ would people meet the Titans there?] , to cease to exist seems ok to me; this was the fate which the Hebrews imagined Yahweh had in mind for them- sheol-non existence.
zytigon 5 months ago
For the truth about religion try Robert M. Price, ' The reason driven life ' or John W. Loftus or Victor J. Stenger, ' God, the failed hypothesis' . Also interesting to have a look at the 1500BCE papyrus of Ani, with its god Osiris who weighs the heart to decide who can pass to the land of the living.[ The need to know the names of the gods & the negative confession & other magic texts to get there]. James Frazer's 'The Golden Bough' and C.S. Lewis, 'Mere Christianity'
zytigon 5 months ago
John Lennox said he doesn't like the idea of living in a dangerous, violent Universe that is indifferent to the plight of those who suffer. He feels an emotional need for hope and justice, he feels a need to be reunited with dead loved ones.
Well, wishing doesn't alter the facts. And he admitted that there is no intellectual answer to the Problem of Suffering.
For a plausible reason for the existence of suffering, and a genuine offer of hope, see the YouTube video 'God says sorry'.
lacontrabasse 5 months ago
Professor Lennox missed the point of the problem of evil. It's not about the existence of a God, it's not about applying justice or a future salvation. It's about the existence of evil and an omnibenevolent, omnipotent and omniscient being, especially if that being is the creator of all things - if that being never desires evil, always desires to prevent the existence of evil, can do everything it desires (and do it) and knows how to accomplish what it desires, then there's no evil.
pedroamaralcouto 5 months ago
John Lenox is my HERO!!!!.... and William Lane Craig...
razorpayne13 7 months ago in playlist John Lenox talk
@johnsmithbsc You agree that atheist have a delusion? What do you mean the universe isn't the way we would expect it without God? Also clearify without God we would expect the non-existence of life? Life is in existence so why would you say we expect non-existence of life, your logic isn't clear here, can you clearify?
samuellis 9 months ago
He didn't answer that very well. All that talk about hope just reinforces the atheist delusion that religion is just a crutch to help people emotionally. The simple answer to his question (even without going into the Bible's answer to the question of suffering, which Lennox didn't really put across either) is that no, the universe isn't the way we would expect it without God - without God we would expect the non-existence of life.
johnsmithbsc 10 months ago 2
Beautifully put . This man is brilliant.
sadathusain 10 months ago