Riis vs Indurain 1995
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@LittleGodOfGods (and 2)... Cyclists that have admitted to have used EPO in the first “wave” in the 90´s, said it was in 1996 when they started to take it because then EPO started to be “trustable” (Rolf Aldag, Filippo Simeoni, Erik Zabel, Udo Bolts, Bert Dietz, Bo Hamburger, Brian Holm). If you have PROOFS (not clues) that deny this declarations, you know what to do.
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@LittleGodOfGods (1) From “I don´t agree you” to “you have no clue” there´s the same difference that from intelligence to arrogance. EPO started in 1977, but in labs. In the first 90´s, cyclist still used corticoids (Sean Kelly, 91), steroids (Jesper Skibby, 91), stimulants (Lennie Kristensen, Jesper Worre, amineptine, 92) growth hormones and testosterone (Jesper Skibby, 92). Why? Because first cyclists that used EPO died (Johannes Draaijer, Joachim Halupczok).
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Doping!
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@ermigue You have no clue. EPO started in the early Nineties. Indurain, Ugrumov, Rominger, Zülle, Chiapucci all used it.
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1995 - last Tour without EPO: 1-Indurain, 3-Riis. 1996 - first Tour with EPO: 1-Riis, 14-Indurain. I´m sure that Indurain knew what was happening in 1996, but his career was done, and his prestige would be in ruins if he was caught. So he tried to win clean again...and he discovered that never more it will be possible. That year he said goodbye.
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At the fair riders at the time amount to how many?? I dont defend Riis. He was cheating, which is wrong. But pro cycling was at that time completely corrupt and Riis was just part of a bunch.
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On equal terms with who? The riders of the future? Not on equal terms with those who were trying to race against him fairly at the time.
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If times were generally faster than now, then what you're saying is, that Riis was competing on equal terms. Fair assesement, I'd say.
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Erm, you do realize what 13% means when you're competing at the top level? It means beating your competitors by minutes. There's a reason times in the 90s and 00s were a lot faster than now and before.
iba hasta las patas el riis ese
joseluismoreno123 2 years ago 12
cuantas gilipolleces hay que leer...
en los campeonatos del mundo y demas pruebas que ganó, no se pasaban controles?....no digas mas tonterias copon. INDURAIN RULES.
incufire 2 years ago 9