Mahler: Symphony No. 2: Mov. 5 - Part 4 of 4
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The greatest symphony ever written, except maybe for Mahler's 3rd, which is also the greatest ever written, and Mahler's 9th which is also the greatest ever written, and Mahler's 1st, which is also...
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I always love the 'bells up' parts of Mahler symphonies. XD
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Rattle's recent performance of the Eighth in Berlin, with (naturally) the Berlin Phil et al. is splendid. I have only cavil: Rattle is obsessed with plasticity of phrasing. It is moving to hear, to feel, the tension rise (and fall) in such precisely mapped gradients, but for me it sounds a little too engineered, gleaming like a burnished metallic finish on an automobile. It's a minor quibble, but it becomes wearying to listen too, like a workout on a Bowflex. I feel relieved, not released.
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Solti? I beg to differ. Solti's performances were highly charged, and he may have had better choral forces, but otherwise Solti did not equal, let alone exceed, either Bernstein or Horenstein. Very fine Mahlerian Solti was, but not great in my opinion.
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Horenstein's performance was in Royal Albert Hall. ~6,000 were in attendance.
From Arkiv Recordings:
Performer: Beryl Hatt, Agnes Giebel, Joyce Barker, Kerstin Meyer, Helen Watts,
Kenneth Neate, Alfred Orda, Arnold Van Mill
Conductor: Jascha Horenstein
Orchestra/Ensemble: London Symphony Orchestra, Orpington Junior Singers, Goldsmiths' Choral Union, Hampstead Choral Society,
Emmanuel School Boys Chorus, BBC Choral Society, BBC Chorus
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Please don't miss Jascha Horenstein's 1959 performance, on BBC Classics, with similar forces and venue. It is not *better* than Bernstein's, but is easily the equal of it. I believe that recording, too, was in stereo. The sound is magnificent, and if anything, the atmosphere is even more exciting due to its being a live performance! I may be wrong on this, but Bernstein's I believe was recorded either before or after the live performance.
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Good, grief, people! I have the highest respect for Alan Gilbert—and for that matter, Gustavo Dudamel—but compared to Bernstein or Horenstein they are still boys. Not that they can't conduct exciting and moving performances that are persuasive simulacra of more those much more mature conductors, They really can't, and don't, compare! Both Bernstein and Horenstein, to name but two, had hammered out distinct Mahlerian *structures* for their interpretations. Gilbert or Dudamel have not.
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@rosending Please tell me you're joking! The 9/11 performance was one of the Best NY Phil Performances I've seen in the past 15 years! So much passion and energy. Gilbert secured his status as an elite conductor in the profession. We all love Bernstein but with the players the NYP has now, it's no contest. Especially brass.
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This was really on fire! I got a spine tingle for a full minute and a half at the end!
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At 3:25 ...highest emotion ...;!!!!
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@Sylderon YES my friend your are very right !!!
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Is there a CD recording of this performance? Please say there is a CD recording of this performance!!
OMG! I saw the NYPhil on TV on 9/11 with alan Gilbert -- a total travesty. He has not a CLUE! I had to watch Bernstein, cuz I know what this piece (and Mahler!)should really sound like. I am totally wasted!
Out of this world, literally...
rosending 5 months ago
@rosending Gilbert's performance was great; he's easily the next Mahlerite successor along with Dudamel.
Tokkemon 5 months ago 2
Does anyone know where this concert was performed?
psisaza 6 months ago
@psisaza Edinburgh Cathedral.
Tokkemon 6 months ago
@Tokkemon Actually Ely Cathedral (that's definitely not St Giles) in 1973. I was living only a few miles away at the time!
DavidWBrooks 4 months ago
@DavidWBrooks Quite right. The choir is from Edinburgh. I got it backwards.
Tokkemon 4 months ago