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Mark Driscoll discusses issues related to the Desiring God 2006 National Conference

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  • I've been wrighting christian perspective songs about the world for four years now. My band is called the Desasterz. Check us out on our myspace. I tackle divorce, playground society mentallity, drugs, marketting bullshiting, paint by numbers un sencitive socialisation, reputation seeking, materialism, self harm and dipretion, gender myths, video games, adolescence, atheism, feminism (i'm working on at the moment), what our soul is loads of stuff.

  • "you ... expect society to transform to reflect Kingdom justic"

    Most certainly disagree with you there. The Bible is quite clear that things here on earth will only get worse and worse until Christ returns to set up his kingdom. There is no earthly Kingdom of God until Christ returns to initiate it, and that is clear to any reader of the Bible unless they purposely stray from a normal interpretation of the Scripture in order to twist the text to fit some pre-conceived ideology.

  • Driscoll clearly says that there are stats that show evangelical moral behavior is not much different from those of non-Christians. He feels that is not right. "Is it possible to love Jesus and not live a new life?" is a critical question. I don't hear him saying doing what you want culturally is justifiable.

  • I think Driscoll is saying 1) if your heart is converted, then you live in ways that honor God and expect society to transform to reflect Kingdom justice and 2) if your heart is converted but your life does not evidence commitments to personal, societal and cultural change that honors God, then it makes no sense to say your heart really changed. Personal salvation that ends with personal salvation does little earthly good.

  • I think his argument was more that 'culture' can be jusification for sin, as it is polluted by those whose arnt living in the truth...? Western culture shows us exceptence in anything we want to do, we are indeed all equal but it still is a sin to sleep around hovever are culture doesnt necaseryly view this as wrong, it is.

  • The kingdom is made up of people from (out of / among) every tribe, tongue, culture, etc. It is one body whose head is Christ. I don't follow his line of reasoning that all the individual cultures will still be distinct. That would not be one body but many diverse bodies and that doesn't jibe.

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