Tokyo Historical Parade-Tokugawa Ieyasu

Highlights from Tokyo Jidai Matsuri 2006.

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Travel & Events

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• samurai
• sengoku
• armour
• yoroi
• japan
• 時代祭り
• 浅草

[AndrewMDarling]

you people talk about samurai and knights like they are video game characters, they are just people, each with different abilities and unique skills, you cant just say samurai are more precise than knights merely because thats the cliche stereotype

[ShiroTakahiro]

lol, Tadakatsu Honda is there !!! I saw him.

[veliwon]

@ShiroTakahiro 1:15

[TheFrostedLlama]

@AndrewMDarling I know right? There's actually more similarities than differences between the two. The German schools in particular. A lot of the advanced techniques for the german longsword and fighting in heavy harness, are similar, if not the same in many cases to their Japanese counterparts.

[toomanyfires]

@AARONeclipsePDI the mongols were handicapped due to having to land in japan by means of ships on a beach. wherever they went on the mainland they destroyed everyone. the japanese only faught amongst themselves on ground they were familiar with. with a population near by supporting them. on familiar ground. that one time they faught another people (the koreans) they failed. they were defeated. the mongols were always victiorious from europe to the middle east and asia.

[AARONeclipsePDI]

@toomanyfires But so say that one is overall superior to the other. That's bias and wrong. If the Samurai were really all the inferior to the Mongols, then why could the mongol not establish a beach head., which is really all they needed to maintain their invasion. You can blame it on lack of whatever but they could not take the beach. Having superior traits does not make a superior people because every person within is different. Dualism. But you can't gauge what never happen unless it did.

[AARONeclipsePDI]

@toomanyfires Yes they did fail. Because that is what happened. But no "people" is better than other. Samurai is not > Mongol vice versa. The Mongols that invaded all the lands and the defenders against them in each land are not the same as the Japanese who routed the Mongol landing party. Nor where those beach defenders the same as the invasion force by Hideyoshi who unified Japan. It just so happened that the performance is of each faction was at the level that it was at the time.

[toomanyfires]

@aa3gunner again where did you get that number? and you know that the romans were european soldiers too right? from around 2000 years ago? and that they moved around 20 miles on foot a day "on a regular basis" carrying all their shit around? try walking anywhere my friend. to a town 30 miles away or so. you'll find that it is DIFFICULT to make only 7 miles a day. that is really, really slow. for someone moving on foot. let alone horseback. napoleons army invading russia marched 35 miles a day.

[aa3gunner]

@toomanyfires No I'm talking on a regular basis. When knights traveled on horseback from place to place, 7 miles was the average. During campaigns, the Mongols moved 70 miles or more.

[toomanyfires]

@aa3gunner 7 miles a day? i served in the german military a while back and when we >walked< somewhere, carrying all sorts of weaponry and equipment, we would move waaaaaaaaaaaaay, way, way, way, way, way faster than that. its very hard for me to imagine anyone moving that slowly. where did you get that number?heck i remember reading that a roman soldier wearing amor, weapons and everything else he needed marched 20 miles a day. on foot. which sounds right to me. 7 miles? no way?

[aa3gunner]

@toomanyfires you didn't read my last post. The mOngols were the most mobile and innovative military force in their time. They were able to take control of China's mighty Sung Empire and take advantage of new weapons such as the grenade, rocket, and cannon. The Mongols were superior archers and marksmen. While Europe moved 7 miles a day, the Mongols moved an average of 70 because of their horsemanship.

The first comment from 5 months ago still stands. Nothing you justify can make it false.

[toomanyfires]

@aa3gunner i dont doubt that the japanese were the superior crafts men. that they buillt superior armor and weapons and that they were brave and skilled warriors. the mongols however had a unique, by far superior way of fighting wars and that never really got a chance be brought into bear against the japanese due to japan being seperated from the asian mainland by the sea. it was that mongol way of fighting wars that made them "unbeatable" against so many, so different foes.