@domkc89 Yes...but James Joyce was a 'writer' and therefore deserving of understanding. Although I know she didn not rank him as highly as Proust. Vivian was not a writer and therefore could happily be described as a 'bag of ferrets' dragging down the genius of Eliot regardless of any human concerns. Whatever she actively did the diary entry obviously shows a lack of sympathy that you would expect Woolf, of all people, to have with the mentally ill.
@BelatedCommiseration I find that a little bit biased. Vivien was not Woolf, nor was Woolf Vivien. Woolf had a huge amount of understanding for James Joyce (who was in no man's-or woman's club) and wrote positively about him in many essays. I don't think she helped the situation, but she didin't actively disrupt their marriage, or say anything publicly that might offend Eliot. I think your comment isn't appropriate-sorry.
Hmmm...bit of an unkind reaction to Vvivan by Virginia Woolf...given her own rather signifcant mental problems and the fact she had a breakdown herself by this time you might have thought her to be a bit more understanding than that...but then she was always a notoriously self absorbed character who only seemed willing to understand other peoples problems if they were in the exclusive 'writers club; she inhabited so I suppose its not surprising.
@domkc89 Yes...but James Joyce was a 'writer' and therefore deserving of understanding. Although I know she didn not rank him as highly as Proust. Vivian was not a writer and therefore could happily be described as a 'bag of ferrets' dragging down the genius of Eliot regardless of any human concerns. Whatever she actively did the diary entry obviously shows a lack of sympathy that you would expect Woolf, of all people, to have with the mentally ill.
BelatedCommiseration 3 weeks ago
@BelatedCommiseration I find that a little bit biased. Vivien was not Woolf, nor was Woolf Vivien. Woolf had a huge amount of understanding for James Joyce (who was in no man's-or woman's club) and wrote positively about him in many essays. I don't think she helped the situation, but she didin't actively disrupt their marriage, or say anything publicly that might offend Eliot. I think your comment isn't appropriate-sorry.
domkc89 3 weeks ago
Hmmm...bit of an unkind reaction to Vvivan by Virginia Woolf...given her own rather signifcant mental problems and the fact she had a breakdown herself by this time you might have thought her to be a bit more understanding than that...but then she was always a notoriously self absorbed character who only seemed willing to understand other peoples problems if they were in the exclusive 'writers club; she inhabited so I suppose its not surprising.
BelatedCommiseration 1 month ago
Why, T.S. Eliot, why do you dislike the cows?
They stare at you, fine, but they do not look
for you're innocence...
Those are stupid who cannot bear their gaze.
IGHON 2 months ago in playlist T.S. Eliot
Poetry in motion!
Bangkok Johnny
Kingdom of Thailand
carsanookdotcom 1 year ago
the part edits in this series are horrible
k386 1 year ago
What a cliffhanger - Ralph Fiennes reading the Four Quartets interrupted in the middle.
pawsoned 1 year ago