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Red Rocks ($14.40) beats Curlin and Better Talk Now to win the Grade 1 Man o' War Stakes at Belmont Park on July 12, 2008.

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  • excuses, excuses, if euros get ripped for having excuses in breeders cup races, then so should americans for turf

    the horse couldnt beat a rag

    Red Rocks is a plain G3 horse at best

    id rather Curlin prove he is a good dirt horse

    then come and disgrace the arc

  • curlin should just wait to run in the jockey club gold cup, then the classic, and end his career that way.. why play games with the grass. silly.

    running in the whitney would be too soon and a mistake

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  • Curlin ran a winning race, but his owners should have chosen an easier race for Curlin's first try on turf, not a field with two Breeders Cup winners who are turf specialists.

  • If you think about it, Curlin had never raced on grass before, he hade some heart

  • I remember well when Red Rocks was sent over from Ireland to run in this race in 2008. I personally never thought that Red Rocks beating Curlin in the Man O' War Stakes was that big of an upset. Considering that Red Rocks had won the Breeders Cup Turf in 2006. Curlin, simply put, was just a better horse on conventional dirt than he was on the turf. JMO.

  • I remember my mom and dad signed me up for a race once and I got 5th place out of 17 horses!!!!!!

  • what the heck

  • I remember vividly my wife and I watching this race on t.v. I told my wife "Curlin is not a grass horse, he won't win this race." As it turned out I was right. It takes a very special horse to run well on all surfaces. Bottom line, Curlin was a dirt horse, period. He didn't win on turf and as we found out later in the year, he didn't like synthetics either. Secretariat ran well on both grass and dirt, winning this race easily in 1973. He wasn't around for synth. but I have a hunch he'd done o.k.

  • I have to say Curlin looked phenominal...if he had moved just a tad earliar...AHHHH

  • I suppose the equivalent would be an American Grade 3 horse coming over to Europe and beating Duke of Marmalade and Youmzain on the dirt at Lingfield (somehow I can't imagine that!). Keep Curlin on the dirt and keep him in America; he's a very good horse by US standards, but he would be embarrassed and humiliated on European turf.

  • That's true... Red Rocks, although a great racer in the States won only a Grade 3 (Richard Gordon Stakes) abroad in Spring of 2007. Curlin should improve on turf, but he will have to improve a whole lot to beat top horses in Europe who are known to fly past Red Rocks.

  • Red Rocks was the 2006 turf winner at the breeders cup, he is a grade 1 horse. After a couple more starts before the Arc, Curlin will be ready and win

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