Anton Batey vs. Michael X of the Nation of Islam 3/7

Table of Contents

Part 1

Personal background
Is Elijah Muhammad alive?
Who is the god of the Nation of Islam?
Life after death -- heaven and hell
Almighty god is a human being
God created himself

Part 2

God created himself
How can a man (god) create a sun?
How did god (a man) create a woman from himself?

Part 3

How did god (a human being) create a woman from himself?
The many (2.5 billion) almighty gods that have existed
Master Fard Muhammad (god in person)
- Fard Muhammad has to "wonder" about something? How can an all-knowing being "wonder" when the word means "a feeling a puzzlement or doubt". Elijah Muhammad also said plenty of times that god is "all-knowing".
- "Albert Einstein" is "Yakub" in Arabic?
- Fard wrong about Baruch de Spinoza (challenging anyone to produce a *single* source which denies that Spinoza was born in November, 1632 and died in February, 1677
The Yakub myth (the creation of the white man)

Part 4

The Yakub myth (the creation of the white man)
DNA is a "trick of the devil"
Gorillas came from white people trying to breed back to being Black

Part 5

Gorillas came from white people trying to breed back to being Black
Radio-carbon dating is a "myth" created by the white man to fool people
Adam and Eve, according to Elijah Muhammad
Malachi 4:5: "Behold, I will send you Elijah the PROPHET..." How can this refer to Elijah Muhammad when he denied that he was a "prophet"?
Qur'anic verses referring to Adam, separating him from the devil, Allah ordering people to follow Adam, etc., whom Elijah Muhammad claims he is/represents the devil...

Part 6

Qur'anic verses referring to Adam, separating him from the devil, Allah ordering people to follow Adam, etc., whom Elijah Muhammad claims he is/represents the devil...

Part 7

Conclusion


My thoughts on the interview/debate:

Master Fard Muhammad's debate with Albert Einstein is either a fake or its proof that he is not really God Almighty. He claimed that he "wonders" about things. How can an all-knowing being "wonder"? He should already know since he is, according to Elijah Muhammad, the Bible and the Qur'an, "all-knowing". Also, he is clearly wrong about Baruch Spinoza's age when he died. ALL, I repeat, *ALL* sources agree that Spinoza was 44 when he died, and not 45. Fard probably just read a book that said he was born in 1632 and died in 1677 and subtracted the years, ignorantly assuming that he was 45 and didn't take into consideration the months he was born/died. I challenge anyone to find me a SINGLE, solitary source that has his birth something other than November, 1632 and his death something other than February, 1677. Followers of the NOI better hope this interview is fake.

The denial of DNA is also quite shocking, and makes me retract some of the respect that I had for the Nation of Islam being scientific, unlike many other religions. Also, claiming that carbon-dating is a "myth" created by the white man is a statement that doesn't even merit a response. The fact that he didn't know what an "isotope" was (an elementary biological term) pretty much says it all. It seems like any science that agrees with Elijah Muhammad they'll accept, but anytime it disagrees with his religious myths, it's all-of-the-sudden one of the "white man's evil tricks".

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[KnowThyself63]

Tsk, tsk, tsk Anton....I-N-G is a process of action. So All-knowing is a process of acquiring all knowledge. GET IT TOGETHER!

[AntonBatey]

@KnowThyself63

“ing” does not always mean that. The definition of “knowing” is:

Know-ing (adj.)

1. Possessing knowledge, information, or understanding. See Synonyms at intelligent.

2. Showing clever awareness and resourcefulness; shrewd.

3. Suggestive of secret or private knowledge: a knowing glance.

4. Deliberate; conscious: a knowing attempt to defraud.

Try harder.

[AntonBatey]

@KnowThyself63

If I say, “I will leave out before rush hour, KNOWING that the freeway by my house will be jammed if I don’t”, am I suggesting that

a) I have not yet acquired the knowledge of knowing that the freeway by my house will be jammed during rush hour, or

b) Expressing my current knowledge that I KNOW the freeway will be packed during rush hour?

[tomhikooo]

IF HE WAS ALL KNOWING YOU SILLY MAN WHY DID HE STUDY?He was all knowing about what he needed to know an purposeful agenda an not silly foolish things like when you an your mommy was born are the neighbor across the street whom he never met.Also the scriptures say that there was a hiding of his power,he made himself of no reputation.As for black red brown an yellow,it all comes from the hue man.If you are white how did you get here?

[JusBeCuzz]

Fard said Einsteins name was YAKUB. It was a play on words. He was being sarcastic bro.

[AntonBatey]

@dipmode

The interview certainly did NOT take place, as I (and I alone, as I understand) located the original sources for all of the original statements that “Fard” and “Einstein” said. I made a video called “Proof the Fard/Einstein Debate is Fake” or something like that.

[dipmode]

@AntonBatey can you prove that really took place interview took place? i may not have 2 million dollars but i would happily pay $1000. You claim the Nation is wrong on many things but many of the things to base your arguments on are not of 100% proven things that "you" personal can prove 100%.

[resumebwd]

Wallie D Ford, Wallei D Ford, W D Ford, W D Fard, Wallace D Ford, Wallace D Fard, Wallace Dodd Ford, Wallie Dodd Fard, Fred Dodd, David Ford-el, Wallace Fard Muhammad, and "Master" Fard Muhammad are just a few of the 58 aliases of WALI DODD FARD an ex-convict who founded the Nation of Islam.

[AntonBatey]

@MrDivinegod

I know. Watch the video I made called "Fard and Einstein" or something.

[geremyscott]

@antonbatey....what specific things do u disagree with the NOI on....list them

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and so on