Response to the allegation against Promised Messiah in which he "said" (even though he was referring to a hadith that the enemies of Ahmadiyya Jamaat wouldn't like you to know) that Holy Prophet allowed his companions to eat cheese about which it was famous (but there was proof that the cheese truly contained fat of pig) among the Arabs that it contained fat of pig. Promised Messiah was responding to a questioner about the verdict on a similar issue that prevailed in his age. Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) responded by saying that one should not fall in doubts about an item being halal or haram just on the basis of a mere hoax or suspicion. He supported his argument by giving this hadith recorded in earlier books of hadith.
@ISMASHYOUBRO
What’s the point in providing you more references as you are already in DENIAL to the previously provided authentic references?
Anyhow, the 1979 Masjid-al-Haram seizure is a very famous story. If you want, you can google “Muhammad bin Abdullah al-qahtani”.
masieha 1 day ago
@masieha And just for the record, please cite the source where you heard the story of the man who claimed to be the Mahdi in the 70's.
ISMASHYOUBRO 2 days ago
@ISMASHYOUBRO
You are DENIAL to Sahih Bukhari! This is the most authentic book of Ahadith and has not written by any Ahmadi :)
In late 1970s, a person named Mohammad ibn Abdullah claimed to be Imam Mahdi according to your reference during Hajj. What happened after that? Please do some research?
masieha 2 days ago
@masieha You've invalidated yourself yet again. We understand the Qur'an and hadith in light of how the Sahabah's, Ta'abeen and the generation after understood them. I actually questioned your references. By God, did you review my hadith about Al-Mahdi? I gave you a clear cut narration which clearly brushed off. You cited a volume of Bukhari which is as vague as citation as you can get. Please be more specific and provide more detail in your references so I can scrutinize them properly.
ISMASHYOUBRO 2 days ago
@ISMASHYOUBRO
What? Understanding of Sahaba????
The first ijmah of sahaba at the death of Holy Prophet SAW was that Muhammad SAW has passed away like the prophets before him (SAW) have been passed away (Sahih Bukhari Vol 3).
There is absolutely no exception to Isa AS in this ijmah.
masieha 2 days ago
@ISMASHYOUBRO
According to QURAN and HADITH
Just repeating my offer: If you like we can discuss these references in detail. Are you willing to talk about Quran & Hadith? Did you get a chance to review the references provided to you earlier?
masieha 2 days ago
@masieha 'Once we review all the sahih ahaadith related to the later days in conjunction to the Holy Quran, the silo picture you are presenting changes completely. Following are some examples of Ahaadith, and if you like we can discuss references from Holy Quran as well'
According to who? You? Mirza Ghulam Ahmad? Honestly.
ISMASHYOUBRO 3 days ago
@masieha I love how you just blatantly ignored my questions. No Qadiani has ever bothered to provide an answer to my simple allegations. Surely you can't just ignore my honest queries? And I'm going off commonly known ahadith pertaining to the Mahdi and the return of Esa(AS) as well as the understanding of the Sahabahs and the pious predecessors of these Ahadith. Tell me: Are you REALLY calling the companions of the Prophet/pious predecessors the 'worst creatures under the sky?'
ISMASHYOUBRO 3 days ago
@ISMASHYOUBRO
AGAIN no answer to the references provided :)
You have totally FAILED to respond to the references provided to you from Sahih Bukhari and Ibn Maja. Do you have any ANSWER to these references?
Why are you reluctant to talk about these Ahadith? Why THE WORST CREATURES UNDER THE SKY are more important to you than the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW?
masieha 3 days ago
@masieha Oh, and if I recall wasn't there a narration whereby the Prophet said that Imam Mahdi would have his name and his father would have his(the Prophet's father) name? Muhammad ibn Abdullah. Yet I'm being told that a crackpot fool who couldn't seem to make his mind up as to who he was, named 'Mirza Ghulam Ahmad' is this Mahdi. Please, humor me more.
ISMASHYOUBRO 3 days ago