Reason vs. Faith, Question 3 of 8 - Ayn Rand Institute

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Dr. Yaron Brook and Dr. Onkar Ghate of The Ayn Rand Institute explain why morality and the fulfillment of human needs are not dependent on religion.

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• Onkar
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[hapspir]

"what makes your reason the right one Dr. Ghate?"

If his reason is faulty, then his life will diminish to the extent that he is wrong. (Maybe he thinks that turpentine is good to drink or that sex causes amnesia.) The same goes for everyone. But we can correct our mistakes. Reason allows for that. Faith is not nearly as flexible, unfortunately.

[richardcadbury]

what the fuck went on in the questioner's head as the panel was answering his question?

was he thinking "la la la la la la la la !!!"?

was he humming "onward christian soldiers..." to himself?

perhaps the hymn "man cannot live by bread alone"

one thing is for sure, he wasn't listening to the answer. which is sad (that he's not even prepared to change his mind) as well as straightforwardly rude.

what a twat!

[vonGleichenT]

apples to apples this is really how we need to keep it.

[visvaldisX]

You should have invited more profound people in the audience.

[aaaaaaaars]

Does Ayn Rand advocate the killing of psychopaths like the man asking the question? I do

[InaneRex]

@Wcoltd

Yeah. That's a nice statement, and I've read FH-6 times, AS-3 times, and all of her other non-fiction at least twice.

Searching for, how exactly, she was validating it. Yes, people with drives similar to her characters exist, but the cause and effect relationship she is proposing doesn't exist.

[Wcoltd]

@InaneRex She wrote this in the back of her book Atlas Shrugged:

"I trust that no one will tell me that men such as I write about don't exist. That this book has been written-and published- is my proof that they do."

She is clear, I see this with many people who share that philosophy.

[InaneRex]

@Wcoltd

I do believe she preferred the term: Objectivist.

Rand taught her 'philosophy' via fiction--? Thus her followers try to live up to fictional characters, sound like anything to you?

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The beauty of Rand is the clarity of her thinking. No empty words, no pointless metaphors.

[Wcoltd]

@InaneRex Yes, I notice this contradiction, anyone who sees themselves as Randian cannot possibly be, because the notion of being Randian is collectivist - which is not Randian at all. If they want to educate people towards this philosophy they should do it as individuals and not as members of an institution.

[InaneRex]

@Radeo

If I wanted to read Rand quotes, I'd read Rand. These fools are as willing to try and understand other human beings as Rand was.

Not much.

Fail. Epic Fail.

[Radeo]

When people claim they are now "taking their faith seriously" that what they are generally doing is piecemealing together a philosophy of "what works" for them.

They become a misintegration of influences, feelings, beliefs and then they say, "Well this is where my faith led me". But saying so does not make it so.

In effect, that process was not entirely based on "faith", it was based on many influences, both secular and religious.

This is why Yaron speaks of "logical extremes".

[InaneRex]

@Radeo

LOL! Do tell.