Irish War Pipes

itchy Fingers

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[RidseardMacCoinnich]

Itchy Fingers, Itchy arse more like

[Andulsi]

@VIOLA9927 In fact recent studies show the majority population on both Islands is of Iberian origin and dates back to between 15 to 10 thousand years ago subsequent invasions only actually account for about 5% each time. Other population groups including Gaels, Anglo Saxons etc... account for a very small parcentage of the DNA. Oh and the Cruithne are not necessarily the same as the Picts. That in itself is just an assumption.

[Andulsi]

@VIOLA9927 DNA analysis of Clan Colla has them in Ulster for a long time. In fact they were essentially Ulster people themselves. La Tene peoples might well have been Fir Bolg- Belgae. ruithne did come from Iberia. Again DNA evidence suggests the root population of Scotland and Ireland was Iberian

[VIOLA9927]

Yes but the collas usurped the established line of the rightful kings of Ulster the Ulaidh. However you are right in saying there were people akin to the cruthne in Ireland.they were called the Cruthne and they were there before the gaels arrived. In fact they and the cruithne fought together against the later invasion of the gaelsand they came via Iberia .unlike the cruithne and Ulaidh people. And before the gaels the la tene celts arrived from Switzerland. Artifacts of theirs found in Ulster.

[Andulsi]

@pondlife14 Families like McMahon and Maguire, and my own people O' Heany are also related to Clan Colla by virtue of being part of the Airgialla tribal group

[Andulsi]

@pondlife14 Any thoughts on why some of the major Scottish Highland Clans give themselves genealogies back to Ireland though? I think it very likely there were people akin to Cruithni in Ireland. Also, Gaels coming from Iberia may well have hit Britain as well. All quite feasible. But McDonald in particular give their genealogies back to Colla Uais and Conn of the Hundred Battles. Those were Irish Kings. And it seems born out in the recent Clan Colla DNA project between Ireland and Scotland.

[pondlife14]

@Andulsi Hello there, Gaels settled in Scotland independantly of Ireland, One such tribe was the Attacotti a tribe of Gaelic-Britons who lived in South-West Scotland who were attributed to spreading Gaelic to Northern Ireland according to Ammianus Marcellinus the 4th century Roman historain. Interestingly they initially spread Gaelic to the Cruithin, Irish Picts who originalted from Caledonia(Scotland)

[Maelsechnaill]

@Calengela Your history of the uilleann pipes is flawed to put it mildly.Uilleann pipes first came in to being in around the 1730s.We do not know who invented them but they are probably related to the small pipes.The drone,s were added later and the regulaters even later still.The only thing adopted in the gaelic revival was the name it changed from union to uilleann,The first tutor for the instrument was made in 1800 by o farrell.You can consider yourself discredited and enlightened.

[Andulsi]

@segano1 Given the proximity of the landmasses I find it unlikely that the traffic flowed only in one direction. And it is well documented that the Irish raided the British coast around the time of the end of Rome. The economy in Ireland was highly propped up by slave trade at the time (hence the legend of St Patrick)

[Andulsi]

@segano1 Like I said, I only care about what s true. I think it untenable to claim Gaelic began in Scotland and spread to Ireland. There s no evidence of that. The literary medieval texts in both Scotland and Ireland suggest the opposite is true. Trust in more recent Historians and Archaelogists than Wylie. He was of his time. Why would it be a problem for you if there had been an Irish invasion. Is it an emotive thing? The history of the whole world is invasion and counter invasion