@ownage4000 There are a heap of options for recovering from "wrong bong" and Lap Sao isnt always the best one. It depends on range and feel etc etc. You cant expect anything in a real fight, the WC needs to become pure feeling and reaction. Over think it, you lose the fight. It has to become instinct. This is what Chi Sao is for AND the dummy. You can learn a lot of Chi Sao concepts from the dummy by remaining in contact with it as much as possible.
The dummy isnt only to learn recovery concepts. It is to teach correct shape and form while moving and angling around an "opponent" as well as condition the limbs for such contact. Once you can perform these moves on a hardwood dummy, the human body is like butter. I can post a vid to prove that if you like, I have my own dummy.
@ownage4000 That he is Ip Mans son does mean something. It means he has credibility of lineage (something very important in WC). Ive trained with David Peterson on occasion in Melbourne though my own club was in a different city but affiliated to his. His dummy (in most parts) is almost no different to this. David (and Wong) said "it doesnt matter what order you do the moves on the Dummy in, it just matters that you do them all"
@CMAFlorida Cont. Ofcourse there are better options to recover from a wrong bong sau, like a laap sau with the bong sau hand. Yip Ching also stated that people tend to move unlike dummy's, yet he doesn't let his opponent move like people. When you made made a bong sau, you can expect that your opponent is going to hit you and not let you do a taahn sau first.
@CMAFlorida I think it would be better not to. My knowledge about the dummy is far from complete. However there is a man called David Peterson who can tell you everything about the wooden dummy form. When I made that comment I did some logic thinking and criticized every step he made. As I've stated earlier, the biggest mistake he has made is that the taahn da follows the bong. That could occur, but the taahn sau would be on the other arm.
@arigato7788 The fact that he's Yip Man's son doesn't mean anything. He has to train hard too. Sadly, Yip Ching has missed the point that the dummy's trying to teach. The dummy is NOT meant to teach you fighting sequences, but is based on concepts that involves recovery. The biggest mistake in the video is that he treats the bong sau and taahn da as one entity instead of 2. I like to believe that the bong is a bong and the taahn da for handling a hook.
@ownage4000 There are a heap of options for recovering from "wrong bong" and Lap Sao isnt always the best one. It depends on range and feel etc etc. You cant expect anything in a real fight, the WC needs to become pure feeling and reaction. Over think it, you lose the fight. It has to become instinct. This is what Chi Sao is for AND the dummy. You can learn a lot of Chi Sao concepts from the dummy by remaining in contact with it as much as possible.
gambleyourhealth 1 month ago
@ownage4000 CONT.
The dummy isnt only to learn recovery concepts. It is to teach correct shape and form while moving and angling around an "opponent" as well as condition the limbs for such contact. Once you can perform these moves on a hardwood dummy, the human body is like butter. I can post a vid to prove that if you like, I have my own dummy.
gambleyourhealth 1 month ago
@ownage4000 That he is Ip Mans son does mean something. It means he has credibility of lineage (something very important in WC). Ive trained with David Peterson on occasion in Melbourne though my own club was in a different city but affiliated to his. His dummy (in most parts) is almost no different to this. David (and Wong) said "it doesnt matter what order you do the moves on the Dummy in, it just matters that you do them all"
gambleyourhealth 1 month ago
@CMAFlorida Cont. Ofcourse there are better options to recover from a wrong bong sau, like a laap sau with the bong sau hand. Yip Ching also stated that people tend to move unlike dummy's, yet he doesn't let his opponent move like people. When you made made a bong sau, you can expect that your opponent is going to hit you and not let you do a taahn sau first.
ownage4000 2 months ago
@CMAFlorida I think it would be better not to. My knowledge about the dummy is far from complete. However there is a man called David Peterson who can tell you everything about the wooden dummy form. When I made that comment I did some logic thinking and criticized every step he made. As I've stated earlier, the biggest mistake he has made is that the taahn da follows the bong. That could occur, but the taahn sau would be on the other arm.
ownage4000 2 months ago
@ownage4000 Maybe you can post your dummy video and enlighten us all on your mastery
CMAFlorida 2 months ago
@arigato7788 The fact that he's Yip Man's son doesn't mean anything. He has to train hard too. Sadly, Yip Ching has missed the point that the dummy's trying to teach. The dummy is NOT meant to teach you fighting sequences, but is based on concepts that involves recovery. The biggest mistake in the video is that he treats the bong sau and taahn da as one entity instead of 2. I like to believe that the bong is a bong and the taahn da for handling a hook.
ownage4000 2 months ago
Wow, I didn't expect him to hit the wooden dummy this hard Oo
I could brake my forearms the same way xD
That's not Yip Man's son for nothing ^^
arigato7788 2 months ago
Looks like the dummy is in pain!
gjkristi 3 months ago
when was this filmed? he is hitting the dummy so hard. if i hit it that hard i think i would be crying by the first 10-20 movements.
711riddler 4 months ago