@Neilgs, Well, I'm waiting. Can you say what your study has proven scientifically before I bother looking it over. Meanwhile there are over 14 studies that have replicated Lovaas' research and found the results to be solid.
Cohen, H., Amerine-Dickens, M., Smith, T. (2006). Early Intensive Behavioral Treatment: Replication of the UCLA Model in a Community Setting. Journal of Developmental & Pediatrics, 27(2), 145-155.
@Neilgs, What do those studies show for the affect of treatment on autism? Any long term information? Any effect on things not specifically treated? Are these theories based on behaviorism with a developmental slant of focus of treatment? Do they describe an interaction with a discrete trial aspect to it in natural environments?
I only ask this because many behaviorists have indeed made the intervention what you seem to think of as improved.
The connections between strengthening neuronal connections (neuroplasticity) through health reciprocal attachment based relationship in neurotypical as well as atypical development is noncontroversial, well established. You can begin your studies for example in developmental psychology and system theory John Bowlby, Mary Ainsworth, Jerome Bruner, Sue Rumbaugh, et al. Clearly and this is not the place for a long list, MANY studies that have scientifically shown affect emotional engagement/dev.
@ABAisSCIENCE Thank you kindly. I most certainly aver the title of " idiot from the stone age" rather than a rat or pigeon in a Skinnerian cage or endure the electroshock or squirts of water spray in the eyes of the early Lovaasian kindness and grace of higher empathic hominid grandeur. You and many suffer from the pathology of operant conditioning on the brain which stands in lieu of properly functioning mirror neurons, which enable not just ideation but empathic engagement to take hold..
@Neilgs, do you know of any scientific study that shows real affect in deepening attachment (try something defining like social skills) or attachment/engagement (look into something like teaching language or imitative behaviors)?
Please give reference to a scientific article as opposed to blowing hot air. If you have to quote a scientific study like something from Applied Behavior Analysis it will be telling for you won't it?
@Neilgs, if you think someone with BCBA or who scribes to a scientific method thinks of ABA or trials as abuse then you are obviously an idiot from the stone age.
Nothing is meaningless if it operant conditions the synaps in the brain to show learning has taken place as opposed to something you likely subscribe to.
You can slow down with people who are behind on the learning curve if you are talking about your own child. When speaking of people who love their children get out of the way.
There is a certain systemic fear and pandemic ignorance combined with the enormous profitability and exploitation of the ABA industry that obfuscates a deeper understanding (or dare I say even a basic understanding) of what constitutes the health foundations of engagement and development. Please read for example, before the next 101 videos you post, a little document called The Affect Diathesis theory by Dr. Stanley Greenspan....
@ABAisSCIENCE It is NOT about thousand of meaningless ABA trials that micromanage and pathologize to the point of ad nauseaum and abuse. It is about joining-in and participating, that is "adult neurotypcials" learning how to slow down and learning how to emotionally engage with affect. Imputing meaning to the child current behaviors. Not looking in terms of "behaviors" but in terms of underlying processing to facilitate deepening attachment/engagement and has a STRONG neuroscientifc foundation.
@Neilgs, Well, I'm waiting. Can you say what your study has proven scientifically before I bother looking it over. Meanwhile there are over 14 studies that have replicated Lovaas' research and found the results to be solid.
ABAisSCIENCE
ABAisSCIENCE 10 months ago
What does your study prove to you?
ABAisSCIENCE 10 months ago
Cohen, H., Amerine-Dickens, M., Smith, T. (2006). Early Intensive Behavioral Treatment: Replication of the UCLA Model in a Community Setting. Journal of Developmental & Pediatrics, 27(2), 145-155.
ABA in natural settings.
ABAisSCIENCE 10 months ago
@Neilgs, What do those studies show for the affect of treatment on autism? Any long term information? Any effect on things not specifically treated? Are these theories based on behaviorism with a developmental slant of focus of treatment? Do they describe an interaction with a discrete trial aspect to it in natural environments?
I only ask this because many behaviorists have indeed made the intervention what you seem to think of as improved.
ABAisSCIENCE 10 months ago
The connections between strengthening neuronal connections (neuroplasticity) through health reciprocal attachment based relationship in neurotypical as well as atypical development is noncontroversial, well established. You can begin your studies for example in developmental psychology and system theory John Bowlby, Mary Ainsworth, Jerome Bruner, Sue Rumbaugh, et al. Clearly and this is not the place for a long list, MANY studies that have scientifically shown affect emotional engagement/dev.
Neilgs 10 months ago
@ABAisSCIENCE Thank you kindly. I most certainly aver the title of " idiot from the stone age" rather than a rat or pigeon in a Skinnerian cage or endure the electroshock or squirts of water spray in the eyes of the early Lovaasian kindness and grace of higher empathic hominid grandeur. You and many suffer from the pathology of operant conditioning on the brain which stands in lieu of properly functioning mirror neurons, which enable not just ideation but empathic engagement to take hold..
Neilgs 10 months ago
@Neilgs, do you know of any scientific study that shows real affect in deepening attachment (try something defining like social skills) or attachment/engagement (look into something like teaching language or imitative behaviors)?
Please give reference to a scientific article as opposed to blowing hot air. If you have to quote a scientific study like something from Applied Behavior Analysis it will be telling for you won't it?
ABAisSCIENCE 10 months ago
@Neilgs, if you think someone with BCBA or who scribes to a scientific method thinks of ABA or trials as abuse then you are obviously an idiot from the stone age.
Nothing is meaningless if it operant conditions the synaps in the brain to show learning has taken place as opposed to something you likely subscribe to.
You can slow down with people who are behind on the learning curve if you are talking about your own child. When speaking of people who love their children get out of the way.
ABAisSCIENCE 10 months ago
There is a certain systemic fear and pandemic ignorance combined with the enormous profitability and exploitation of the ABA industry that obfuscates a deeper understanding (or dare I say even a basic understanding) of what constitutes the health foundations of engagement and development. Please read for example, before the next 101 videos you post, a little document called The Affect Diathesis theory by Dr. Stanley Greenspan....
Neilgs 10 months ago
@ABAisSCIENCE It is NOT about thousand of meaningless ABA trials that micromanage and pathologize to the point of ad nauseaum and abuse. It is about joining-in and participating, that is "adult neurotypcials" learning how to slow down and learning how to emotionally engage with affect. Imputing meaning to the child current behaviors. Not looking in terms of "behaviors" but in terms of underlying processing to facilitate deepening attachment/engagement and has a STRONG neuroscientifc foundation.
Neilgs 10 months ago