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[TheOkstate2012]

Satan has you faggots arguing over theology when thousands of people have yet to hear the Gospel overseas. Why don't you loosers go do something that actually counts...

[godsgift2drums]

@TheOkstate2012

and what are you doing overseas?

[TheOkstate2012]

@godsgift2drums

telling them they can have coats on their backs and rings on their fingers

[godsgift2drums]

@TheOkstate2012

in the story of the prodigal son, didn't the father put a ring on his sons finger? im no longer christian by the way. are you?

[NewDirection4us]

All 5 points of Calvinism, TULIP, are from the scriptures. You Arminians do not properly understand the scriptures. Jesus said: "All that the Father gives to me will come to me". And "No man can come to me unless the Father draws him to me". Sounds to me like Jesus was saying that God is the one in control, not puny little sinful and spiritually DEAD little man with his great big ego and "freewill" The only thing worse than an Arminian is an Atheist. God is sovereign!

[godsgift2drums]

Are you saying that I am Arminian?

[SpaceAboveSky]

@NewDirection4us Do you follow a God where if man sneezes He loses authority and control? It sounds like it. Man can't respond without God losing Himself? Sounds ridiculous. Read Matthew 8:12. People who Heaven was prepared for will end up tossed into eternal fire.

[joshua50101]

@godsgift2drums what a shame! no wonder the Word talks about apostacy in the ened times

[blessedwithoutmeasur]

good words love you

[ChristianHopeVideos]

@TheOkstate2012 1Pe_4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

[SpaceAboveSky]

@NewDirection4us God is a god of order. He set Adam to watch over the garden. He set the tides of the Ocean. God loves his family and is involved with them. No good father ties down his family and forces them to do anything.

God cannot sin, it is imposisble. To make him responsible for sin makes HIM deserving of death. That's heresy and a satanic lie. Just because God doesn't fit your definition of what "sovereign" is, you made him into a tyrant and the same being as satan.

Pray.

[SpaceAboveSky]

@godsgift2drums oh shet

[sirjames45]

Calvinists are right and Arminians are wrong. Evidence: Calvinists have long lists of Scriptures they present. Arminians only have the "all" and "world" verses.

Calvinists know and talk about each side. Arminian preachers NEVER EVEN MENTION Calvinism, so Arminianism "wins" by default.

[CBALLEN]

@PyroFreeze777 If you read Eph. 1: 4-12 ,it lays out the whole plan for believers.Many people don't read the scriptures in context.In Eph. Paul is addressing believers only,and he is laying out the story of how God had chose them all before time , why He chose them and to what end.

[PyroFreeze777]

@CBALLEN

This is a tough scripture for the Armenian for sure.

I'm sure you are aware of the stance many Armenians hold that God elects those whom He in His foreknowledge knows already who will chose Him, and so this is what I would have to apply here.

The reason that its thousands of years later and we are still debating over this is that both sides have difficult scriptures to deal with, and logic to face.

Ezekiel 33:11 would be one the Calvinist can't make a strong argument against.

[CBALLEN]

@PyroFreeze777 Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.

Notice,as many as were appointed to eternal life believed,and NOT, as many as believed were appointed to eternal life.The appointment was made by God Himself before time that certain individuals would believe when the gospel was presented to them.Notice again,ONLY AS MANY AS WERE APPOINTED,WILL BELIEVE.