Dialogue With Bobbo345 On Baptism

A dialogue with bobbo345 on baptism and the meaning of "In the Name of Jesus". A response to "RE: Baptism and In the Name of Jesus".

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Education

Tags:

• baptism
• oneness
• baptize
• UPC
• apostolic
• Acts 2:38
• Jesus name
• only
• King James Version
• in the name of

[RinnEgade]

These scripture state the requirements for remission of sins: Matt 26:28 the blood of Jesus; Mk 1:4/Lu 3:3 Repentance; Acts 10:43 Belief; Rom 3:25 Faith; Acts 2:38 Repentance & baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins.

[Bibletouchstone]

The Blood-Mat 26:28 (says for what sake was His blood to be shed, what was the purpose);Repentance-Mar 1:4, Luk 3:3 (says for what sake did he preach the baptism of repentance, preparing the way of the Lord);Belief- Act 10:43 (says who will receive the remission of sins);Rom 3:25 (says how sinners are propitiated and why);Baptism-Act 2:38 (says into what those pricked in their hearts would be baptized into and how to receive the Holy Ghost)

[RinnEgade]

Instead of placing an opinion of what the scripture says how about putting the literal quote there? The blood of Jesus was shed for the remission of sins. Repentance is for the remission of sins. Belief is for the remission of sins. Baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins. Baptism in Jesus name washes away our sins & places us in the body of Christ.

[Bibletouchstone]

I am finishing a five part series of exegeting these passages. Thanks for you comments. Maybe you could do a video too.

[RinnEgade]

Where in scripture does it say "mans conscience is already washed...before water baptism"? Or "water baptism is an outward answer declaring one saved"? Sounds like you're in bondage to man made doctrine.

[RinnEgade]

I still can't find the scripture where it says "the Father is a person, etc.." God is a Spirit is scriptural. Tertullian is man who coined trinitas or trinity which is a pagan term. Which is why Jesus will tell ppl to depart for he never knew them.

[RinnEgade]

The HS is the Father of Christ: Mat 1:18,20/Lu 1:35. Obviously 1 & the same. Christ only said that he is 1 w/the Father & never a 3rd: Jo 10:30. It's all about 1 God (psst, it's the Father 1 Cor 8:6) manifest in the flesh 1 Tim 3:16. It takes the Spirit of Truth to be lead into this truth.

[RinnEgade]

Acts 2:38 had better be the literal fulfillment or there's a contradiction. Jesus name is the name unlocked by Peter who was given the key. The Spirit is the Father of Christ. To say Jesus name excludes anything is opinion just as "distinct eternal person" or 'trinity'.

[RinnEgade]

lol..works based theology bondage. Baptism is not a work. The rest of the verse explains that it has nothing to do w/washing physical filth as obviously some were thinking, or Peter would not have mentioned it in that way. The like figure of the waters lifting up noah & also the jews when crossing the sea. Baptism is the fulfillment of those figures. Can't have a good conscience w/out baptism either. To say "having already been saved" is an opinion & a blind 1 @ that.

[ChristianTULIP]

3)The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are personally distinct from one another.

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are able to:

(A) Send or be sent by one another (John 3:17, 10:36, 14:23-26, 15:26, 16:7).

(B) Speak to each other (John 17:1-26, Romans 8:26-27, Hebrews 1:7-8) and about each other (Matthew 17:5, Mark 1:11, John 8:13-18).

(C) The Father and Son love and honor each other (John 3:35, 5:20, 14:31).

[ChristianTULIP]

C) The Holy Spirit is a Person. We can have fellowship with him, Philippians 2:1, II Cor. 13:14; he knows, I Cor. 2:11; he teaches, Luke 12:12, I Cor. 2:13; he loves, Romans 15:30; he is a witness, Acts 20:23, Romans 8:16; he has a will, I Cor. 12:11; he can be grieved, Ephesians 4:30.

[ChristianTULIP]

2) The Father is a Person, the Son is a Person and the Holy Spirit is a Person

(A)The Father is a Person. We can have fellowship with him 1John1:3; he knows, Matt6:6-8; he teaches, Matt 16:17; he loves John 16:27; he is a witness, John8:18; he has a will, John5:30

(B)The Son is a Person. We can have fellowship with him, 1John1:3; he knows, Matt11:27; he teaches, John1:18, Rev. 2:18; he loves, Rom8:35, Gal. 2:20; he is a witness, John 8:18; he has a will John 5:30; he can be grieved, John 11:35

[ChristianTULIP]

1) The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.

(A) The Father is God (I Peter 1:2; John 6:27, 20:17; Galatians 1:1; Matthew 11:25; Jude 1).

(B) The Son -- or Word -- is God (John 1:1, 8:58, 20:28; Hebrews 1:1-8, Colossians 2:9, Titus 2:13).

(C) The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5 :1-11; I Corinthians 2:11; 6:19-20).

[ChristianTULIP]

Acts 2:38 is NOT a literal fulfillment of Matt28:19 because Jesus is the outward name of the eternal son alone. Jesus is NOT the outward name of the Father and Holy Spirit. This being true -baptism in the single name of Jesus would necessarily exclude the Father and Spirit in violation of Matt:28:19. Fact is - the Son is not a mere "flesh shell" for the Father and Spirit to inhabit. The Son (who alone is Jesus) is a distinct eternal person.

Lets look at the evidence for Three persons in one God