@psychomajoreflex But you have to also take into perspective the slower pace in today's NBA compared to the 80's....Although the Bulls in the 80's played always the slowest pace in the league. If MJ played on some of those crazy high octane Denver teams back in the days he would have probably averaged 50 ppg anyway :-)
@HymanKaplan yea true, but you have got to see that today's rules opens up the lane for anyone in the NBA to drive and dunk or layup, which MJ takes seriously. and if and only if he decides to ballhog, assuming that the time he plays he plays with the same team that the bulls had from '85-'91 i'd say he could potentially average 50+ per game if not 60+. judging by how the current centers' position lack of production on the boards today, i'd say MJ would have average 7+ rebs
@psychomajoreflex I could see him go for 40+ ppg on 60% but 50 ppg sounds little too much. He would have to ball hog like crazy..it would depend on how good/bad team he plays..He would definitely be more effective in today's league, especially when he was young and athletic (1987-91), since the rules are designed for quick ball handers and penetrators..
@HymanKaplan you should also look at the way he works off the ball to create shots for himself or for his teammates, that explains to people the reason why he is commonly 'open' and the reasons why he can avoid double teams and traps easily than kobe. i bet if he played in this era, with the no-handchecking and an open lane to the basket, he would average at least 50ppg with at least 60% shooting, and over 7+ assists. from what I see, he takes the open lane seriously than kobe does, & lebron too
@HymanKaplan cont'd his fakes and his footwork is the key to his quickness as well combined with strength and agility he has no weakness to his game. somehow when i watch kobe take 'tough' jumpers (mostly threes for good measure) which are a common highlight on youtube, he takes a whole bunch of fakes and pivot foots, thus hinders his shot, while MJ uses just one cross, one fake, or one step moves and his jumper is automatic. combined with MJ's big hands, he can also create shots with one hand!
@HymanKaplan just look at the crossovers and ball handling skill alone. while kobe takes a lot of crossovers, spin moves and many dribbles (at least 10-12) just to get to the basket, MJ uses very minimal dribbles (1-3 at best) to get to the basket, the rest is all about creating shots. MJ was very agile and explosive. He is also very strong as well. When he explodes baseline, MJ uses only one spin move, or one to two post up dribbles, and that is an automatic basket for MJ. it not even close
@GotPurp90 same level? I LOL at u
psychomajoreflex 1 month ago
@MrEulistolliver how is defense better? how is kobe more 'skilled' than MJ?
psychomajoreflex 1 month ago
@HymanKaplan yeah i agree!
psychomajoreflex 1 month ago
@psychomajoreflex But you have to also take into perspective the slower pace in today's NBA compared to the 80's....Although the Bulls in the 80's played always the slowest pace in the league. If MJ played on some of those crazy high octane Denver teams back in the days he would have probably averaged 50 ppg anyway :-)
HymanKaplan 1 month ago
@HymanKaplan yea true, but you have got to see that today's rules opens up the lane for anyone in the NBA to drive and dunk or layup, which MJ takes seriously. and if and only if he decides to ballhog, assuming that the time he plays he plays with the same team that the bulls had from '85-'91 i'd say he could potentially average 50+ per game if not 60+. judging by how the current centers' position lack of production on the boards today, i'd say MJ would have average 7+ rebs
psychomajoreflex 1 month ago
@psychomajoreflex I could see him go for 40+ ppg on 60% but 50 ppg sounds little too much. He would have to ball hog like crazy..it would depend on how good/bad team he plays..He would definitely be more effective in today's league, especially when he was young and athletic (1987-91), since the rules are designed for quick ball handers and penetrators..
HymanKaplan 1 month ago
@HymanKaplan you should also look at the way he works off the ball to create shots for himself or for his teammates, that explains to people the reason why he is commonly 'open' and the reasons why he can avoid double teams and traps easily than kobe. i bet if he played in this era, with the no-handchecking and an open lane to the basket, he would average at least 50ppg with at least 60% shooting, and over 7+ assists. from what I see, he takes the open lane seriously than kobe does, & lebron too
psychomajoreflex 1 month ago
@psychomajoreflex I couldn't agree more!
HymanKaplan 1 month ago
@HymanKaplan cont'd his fakes and his footwork is the key to his quickness as well combined with strength and agility he has no weakness to his game. somehow when i watch kobe take 'tough' jumpers (mostly threes for good measure) which are a common highlight on youtube, he takes a whole bunch of fakes and pivot foots, thus hinders his shot, while MJ uses just one cross, one fake, or one step moves and his jumper is automatic. combined with MJ's big hands, he can also create shots with one hand!
psychomajoreflex 1 month ago
@HymanKaplan just look at the crossovers and ball handling skill alone. while kobe takes a lot of crossovers, spin moves and many dribbles (at least 10-12) just to get to the basket, MJ uses very minimal dribbles (1-3 at best) to get to the basket, the rest is all about creating shots. MJ was very agile and explosive. He is also very strong as well. When he explodes baseline, MJ uses only one spin move, or one to two post up dribbles, and that is an automatic basket for MJ. it not even close
psychomajoreflex 1 month ago