Ryan Harvey - The Lesson of John Brown

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[death9719]

@AnarchistOpposition no i am just saying that anarcho communism hates private property and hierarchy that they seem more likely to enforce there will than anarcho caps who don't want to change the system beyond the removal of the state.

[AnarchistOpposition]

@death9719 So because some people who put themselves under a label are internally inconsistent it somehow debunks the idea that the label represents even when those inconsistencies are absent in the idea itself due to the additive nature of the inconsistencies? Makes sense to me.

[death9719]

@AnarchistOpposition i did and i was an anarcho commie for a while. i do know ancoms who would do that, and ancaps as well

[AnarchistOpposition]

@death9719 The answer is no. One of the very basic anarchist principles is freedom of organization. That answer should be obvious and would have been if you had read the article that I suggested to you.

[death9719]

@AnarchistOpposition well will you force communism on me yes or no?

and can you just answer the question and instead of calling me a troll to escape it

[AnarchistOpposition]

@death9719 At this point I heavily suspect that you are trolling. If you are not please go read the article on wikipedia about Communist Anarchism. You are gravely misrepresenting the idea.

[death9719]

@AnarchistOpposition how does it work then? that would be mutualism not anarchist communism. and what if you don't want to work for the collective will you force communism on them, if you will your not anarchist, if you won't okay. you can set up a collective i can set of a company we'll see who does better.

[AnarchistOpposition]

@death9719 Firstly, that is not how all collectives work. Secondly, I don't think you are grasping the concept of wages very well. Yes, in industrial society one, for the most part, must be productive, that is true. However, producing does not imply wages. It is perfectly plausible to manage the product of your own labour instead of it being sent up the capitalist hierarchy.

[death9719]

@AnarchistOpposition

at least in capitalism you can choose how your enslaved, collectivly or by the rich

[death9719]

@AnarchistOpposition

when are you not dependant on wages? in the collective you are dependant on the labor notes you recieve from the collective, the only time your not a wage slave is if your working for your self.