The Welfare State

No prospective political candidate in bankrupt Britain would dare suggest the welfare state is a crime and needs to be scrapped. Too much of the electorate cannot imagine a world without it. But I am not a prospective political candidate, so I can tell it as it is.

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[Karateworm]

A Britain without the welfare state would be a horrid, horrid place. The structuring of a society that promotes freedom, happiness and progression is far more complicated than "a thief came along and stole something". A world where we are totally dependent of "market forces" would be a truly unpleasant one. Eugh.

[HairyChestnuts]

@Karateworm A free society cannot exist in a welfare state. The last sixty years has proven that. Britain managed to get through the second world war without a welfare state or an NHS, yet people weren't left to die in the streets. But knowledge of such things has been eroded by years of socialist propaganda that has indoctrinated the public into believing they cannot live without the state to nurse maid them.

[ORACLE063]

Europe.... Serfs for a 1000 yrs.... Serfs for a 1000 more..... thanks for peddling your crap on my side of the pond. Most of us were trying to get away from ur bullshit.

[HairyChestnuts]

@ORACLE063 You had the chance to create a brave new world of freedom after the war of independance, don't blame us if you flushed that chance down the toilet. The US constitution was the finest document ever written, but it was US politicians that decided to ignore it and erode your hard won liberty. And it has been the US people that have sat back and allowed them to do it. My country is shit because it always was, what's your excuse?

[DarcPrynce]

Well said! I couldn't agree with you more. Well, actually I could agree a bit more, but if I did you'd just end up getting a swelled head over it, and before long you'd likely run for public office... and where does that ever get anyone? By the way, smashing tunic you've got there. You know, you don't see many tunics like that anymore. Pity really, because I happen to think it makes a marvelous fashion statement.

[HairyChestnuts]

@DarcPrynce Cheers, I made the tabbard myself. One of the most valuble lessons I learnt in the army was sewing. Soldiers have to look after themselves because mum isn't around to patch our trousers or sew buttons on ;-)

[LieutenantGibGib]

Haha! Sorry, I meant I can't see how this is specifically arguing against the welfare state system since what you're saying could be applied to taxes in general.

[SuperGrouper]

My faith in Britain has been restored. Thank you.

[mervintoot]

@Kunguskang When the State intervenes, that means it's the politicians (who screwed it up in the first place) intervening. They themselves in effect operate on a market force level, because their position and status depends wholly on the way they market themselves from the perspective of their personal self interest - i.e. they continue to lie, stay in power and nothing changes. Example: Who de-regulated the banks? The politicians. It all went horribly wrong. Who suffered? Them or the tax payer?

[Kunguskang]

@mervintoot The welfare state is wholly neccessary. It protects our society against ruthless market forces. The market economy is based on profit. What happens when this competition for resources, outsourcing, wars, poverty, economic imperalism all erupts and we face another finanical meltdown? Does it it concern you that the market economy is incentivised to go to war? What happens when we have a crash like in 1929, 1990s or the late 2006? Well, the state must intervene and save the day again!

[NubSaibot]

Excellent!

[toadabc]

We Americans can waite to go down the path of ruin that Britian is experiencing. Master thief Obama thinks that all money is really his to begine with, so why should we complain as long as we get a little back.