酔拳 醉八仙拳 (少林黑虎門) Siu Lum Black Tiger Drunken boxing

少林黑虎門に伝わる酔拳です。パフォーマンス重視の武術（ウーシュー）の酔拳や映画のものとは全く異なり、南派酔拳は実践的です。体から縦横無尽の円を出し、全身を鞭のよ­うにくねらして攻撃します。南派特有の鳳眼拳（拳から人差し指の第二関節つきだした状態のパンチ）が特徴です。

Although the Drunken Style Boxing has recently become popular by Jackie Chan, the original Shaolin style of the Eight Immortals is said to be over thousand years old. The movements are highly advanced and difficult to perform.

The name of the form is 醉八仙拳 "drunk eight immortal fist". Each set of the techniques in the drunken form represents a unique attribute of one of the eight Immortals.

The eight Immortals were "drunken" with their immortality. Their abilities were said to be far beyond normal humans. Their immortality allowed them to act with genuine abandonment, openness and freedom. The eight Immortals differ from the immortals of the previous Chinese myth who were serious and solitary. In fact, the eight immortals were happy and carefree, and often travelled as a group.

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[Siddthartha]

it seems to me, you add some tachi principles in your movement. isnt it? )

[kurotoramon]

@Siddthartha Thanks for the comment. The answer is yes or no. Relaxation of the body and power is generated from the hips, which is kind of general principles in Chinese Martial Arts. So, there are always some degree of resemblances in the Chinese styles. Not to mention, I love Taichi and practise Yang and Chen style.

[Siddthartha]

@kurotoramon yeah, but it is clearly seen that you practise chen style. for example, "something moved -- nothing remains motionless", and waving movement from center of mass, and some synchronizing of joints of hands and legs, known as "three external coordinations" -- that's principles of internal art, not just chinese) anyway, all this stuff is very useful imho, so I like result of your practice -- looks good.

i mean, all of other demonstrations of drunk forms i saw, were more "external".

[kurotoramon]

@Siddthartha I see...you seem to know Chen style a lot more than me. Thanks for sharing the information with me. I kind of agree with you regarding other drunken forms seen on YouTube. The majority is basically modern wushu style, which look like being a drunkard but jumping and rolling around. They look pretty external. However, the style I do is not like being drunken, but constant changes of the centre of gravity with relaxation of the body looks like a drunkard....

[kurotoramon]

@GetDamage Thank you for the support!!

[kurotoramon]

@libragig88, Yes, I like pondering. So, when learning new forms or movements, I normally break down the moves into segments and contemplate the reasons behind the motions. I found that the traditional Chinese arts contain layers of information in the movements. Therefore, it is enjoyable to repeatedly practise the techniques and forms because I keep discovering new things. This is just like reading the Taichi songs.

[kurotoramon]

@libragig88 My apology for the belated reply. I just found your messages to be approved here. Thank you for explaining the joint power. Now I have some ideas.

[GetDamage]

@kurotoramon thumbs up, this looks more practical than any other drunken style on here.

[libragig88]

If you are referring to Fajing, this is totally different as only one joint normally could not perform fajing but a series of them do. It normally starts from the ground and all the joints that it pass accelerate it until it hits opponent.

I believe you are fond of old Chinese kungfu system script too but they are quite hard to understand and sometimes too blurr. However, a kungfu systems original essence and training method lies within these old words.

[libragig88]

I believe the Southern drunken form needs very strong wrist power, it enables you to do handstand kicking thus extend the technique of the drunken system. The second most important joint would be the knee power. Much pretend-falling motion need strong knee to give you wider angle. One must be able to perform stand-crouch-stand with one leg hanging in the air to lay the foundation. I wonder if this helps you understand what I mean as Joint power.