@JamesPWriter Your comments are never BACKED UP. I make honest, reasoned counter-arguments to your claims and all you can do is plead that I am a meanie. Typical projecting theist who can't defend his delusions. Self-honesty is moot in your to-doubt-is-weakness fairyland. Grow up, for the love of reality.
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty CHILDISH. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954
@themsfightinwoids Your comments are filled with emotions, little logic, accusations, expletives, arrogance, assumptions, theories, incorrect definitions, and condescending/derogatory remarks against your fellow Americans, with pervasive disrespect of PEOPLE (regardless of beliefs). Therefore you may argue by yourself, as I withdraw. Farewell, and I hope you find goodness in Americans, and all humans.
You sure do throw a variety of bullshit into your comments.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN A PERSONAL GOD and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
"Neither mine nor your perceptions/ideas aren't better than anyone else's. Arrogant, much?"
WRONG. Demonstrably false beliefs are NOT of equal value or merit as those that have not been disproven. You are sneakily trying to muddle right to one's opinion with value of one's ideas.
That's why flat-earthers and biblical literalists (ex: creationists) are demonstrable idiots compared to evolutionists. One group believes despite contrary evidence, the other is committed to honesty and REALITY.
A-theism, by strict definition, is ONLY a LACK of that conviction. It is not necessarily a belief that no gods exist. That is a strawman exaggeration that you theists love to employ. Even Dawkins admits to a miniscule possibility that gods, like fairies or invisible unicorns, MIGHT exist, but that ALL evidence suggests the contrary.
YOU are "communicating" dishonestly, not just "illogically".
Obama just tries to appease theists by appearing more superstitious than he really is (he regularly omits the word “Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence, he doesn't commit to one denomination, etc). Without that illusion he would never have squeaked past the McCain/Palin disaster, and wouldn't stand a chance at re-election. He's trying to do the greater good, at the cost of letting the dumb USA think he might actually believe that magic God shit.
In a universe devoid of ANY evidence for ANYTHING supernatural, no nation should allow superstitious beliefs to infect its government and institutions. That is contrary to an honest assessment of reality.
Even if a majority of the populace belives in Santa, such superstitions have no place in running a nation, particularly since non-believers should not be forced to support, by taxes, such unfounded superstitious dogma.
NO magical "belief system" is needed to run a nation.
@JamesPWrite "Agnosticism and atheism are both belief systems"
LIAR! Atheism is a lack of conviction that any gods exist, nothing more. Does non-belief in invisible fairies constitute a "belief system"? Given that there is ZERO evidence for ANYTHING supernatural, including gods, non-belief is the ONLY rational default, and therefore DOES deserve more respect than all the unsubstantiated superstitious beliefs. That's why the overwhelming majority of top, credentialled scientists aren't theists.
@JamesPWriter What about respecting the non-believers and other-god believers? Religion has no business in matters of state, which are taxpayer funded. Is the USA a theocracy?
Religion also has no business indoctrinating children with non-science and superstition in taxpayer funded schools, which is epidemic in the US.
And no-one's beliefs deserve amnesty from mockery simply because they are religious. Free speech must trump religious sensitivities for civilization to last.
@JamesPWriter Your comments are never BACKED UP. I make honest, reasoned counter-arguments to your claims and all you can do is plead that I am a meanie. Typical projecting theist who can't defend his delusions. Self-honesty is moot in your to-doubt-is-weakness fairyland. Grow up, for the love of reality.
themsfightinwoids 4 months ago
@JamesPWriter
Einstein, you say?
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty CHILDISH. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954
themsfightinwoids 4 months ago
@themsfightinwoids Your comments are filled with emotions, little logic, accusations, expletives, arrogance, assumptions, theories, incorrect definitions, and condescending/derogatory remarks against your fellow Americans, with pervasive disrespect of PEOPLE (regardless of beliefs). Therefore you may argue by yourself, as I withdraw. Farewell, and I hope you find goodness in Americans, and all humans.
JamesPWriter 4 months ago
@JamesPWriter "Einstein's perceptions"?
You sure do throw a variety of bullshit into your comments.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN A PERSONAL GOD and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
- Albert Einstein, 1954
TheAnniepies 4 months ago
"Neither mine nor your perceptions/ideas aren't better than anyone else's. Arrogant, much?"
WRONG. Demonstrably false beliefs are NOT of equal value or merit as those that have not been disproven. You are sneakily trying to muddle right to one's opinion with value of one's ideas.
That's why flat-earthers and biblical literalists (ex: creationists) are demonstrable idiots compared to evolutionists. One group believes despite contrary evidence, the other is committed to honesty and REALITY.
themsfightinwoids 4 months ago
@JamesPWriter
Theism is a belief in god or gods.
A-theism, by strict definition, is ONLY a LACK of that conviction. It is not necessarily a belief that no gods exist. That is a strawman exaggeration that you theists love to employ. Even Dawkins admits to a miniscule possibility that gods, like fairies or invisible unicorns, MIGHT exist, but that ALL evidence suggests the contrary.
YOU are "communicating" dishonestly, not just "illogically".
themsfightinwoids 4 months ago
@JamesPWriter
Obama just tries to appease theists by appearing more superstitious than he really is (he regularly omits the word “Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence, he doesn't commit to one denomination, etc). Without that illusion he would never have squeaked past the McCain/Palin disaster, and wouldn't stand a chance at re-election. He's trying to do the greater good, at the cost of letting the dumb USA think he might actually believe that magic God shit.
themsfightinwoids 4 months ago
@JamesPWrite part2
In a universe devoid of ANY evidence for ANYTHING supernatural, no nation should allow superstitious beliefs to infect its government and institutions. That is contrary to an honest assessment of reality.
Even if a majority of the populace belives in Santa, such superstitions have no place in running a nation, particularly since non-believers should not be forced to support, by taxes, such unfounded superstitious dogma.
NO magical "belief system" is needed to run a nation.
themsfightinwoids 5 months ago
@JamesPWrite "Agnosticism and atheism are both belief systems"
LIAR! Atheism is a lack of conviction that any gods exist, nothing more. Does non-belief in invisible fairies constitute a "belief system"? Given that there is ZERO evidence for ANYTHING supernatural, including gods, non-belief is the ONLY rational default, and therefore DOES deserve more respect than all the unsubstantiated superstitious beliefs. That's why the overwhelming majority of top, credentialled scientists aren't theists.
themsfightinwoids 5 months ago
@JamesPWriter What about respecting the non-believers and other-god believers? Religion has no business in matters of state, which are taxpayer funded. Is the USA a theocracy?
Religion also has no business indoctrinating children with non-science and superstition in taxpayer funded schools, which is epidemic in the US.
And no-one's beliefs deserve amnesty from mockery simply because they are religious. Free speech must trump religious sensitivities for civilization to last.
See the logic?
themsfightinwoids 5 months ago