Judaism Influenced Zoroastrianism Part 21 Babylonian gods vs Persian gods

Here are some maps of Babylon and Persia at that time. See how they were two different regions during this period:

http://www.bible-history.com/maps/maps/map_persian_empire.html

http://www.bible.ca/maps/maps-near-east-500BC.jpg

Here is some info on the Babylonian god Marduk:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0013_0_13252.html

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[ichonoclaster]

Of course you are going to say that - because to do otherwise means you have to embrace reality - which your delusions will not allow you do do.

The truth is truthceeker - that Zoroastrianism imprinted itself upon Judaism and that is the reality - the Jews only became monotheistic AFTER they made Cyrus the messiah and Isaiah is the first time in Jewish literature where YHWH is credited as creator. So anything you cay contrary to that is delusional ranting.

[TruthCeeker333]

@ichonoclaster There is plenty of evidence that supports the Jews/Hebrews were monotheistic prior to the Babylonian Captivity. Anyone who states otherwise is not being historically honest.

[ichonoclaster]

@TruthCeeker333 You are a LIAR. The so called evidence was redacted during the Persian Period - so there is no evidence at all. The Israelites were all polytheistic until well after their exposure to Zoroastrianism. Almost every domestic building being excavated in Israel from the pre Exile period is turning up figurines of Asherah and Baal - so archaelology has shown conclusively that the Bible is LIES - polytheism was the norm. Your so-called evidence are a pack of lies.

[TruthCeeker333]

@ichonoclaster "Redacted" is broad term. Just exacted how things were redacted cannot be fully known. It is all based on guesses. Regarding the Asherah and Baal, those are actually refered to in the Bible, so what is so important about that! I mean everyone knows that the Hebrews/Jews fell into idolatry. The point is that they were monotheistic prior to that period. I don't lie. You should do more reading on how "Redactions" are guessed at. Peace be with you.

[ichonoclaster]

Orwell wrote:

“ Nazi theory indeed specifically denies that such a thing as "the truth" exists. […] The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but the past. If the Leader says of such and such an event, "It never happened"—well, it never happened. If he says that two and two are five—well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs

[ichonoclaster]

Your exact words were "Correct me if I am wrong". You are very wrong and I have corrected you. The problem is you do not accept the reality. The evidence against your beliefs is overwhelmingly to the contrary, but despite that, you cling to your beliefs. That is called Delusion. You should seek help.

[ichonoclaster]

@TruthCeeker333 Not at all, the Israelites/Jews only became monotheistic AFTER the exile - that is the undisputed fact - its even in the OT itself - only in Isaiah is YHWH credited as the one and only god and creator. Archaeology has proved the Bible to be lies. Asherah was YHWHs wife - the same as El of the Canaanites - Israelites WERE Canaanites and they had the same patheon of gods with El as the head and Asherah as his wife. Judaism today IS Zoroastrianism. You can't see it but it is.

[TruthCeeker333]

@ichonoclaster Part of the OT was written in the Persian Period, but the Torah, the first five books were written before the Captivity. That is unless you hold to Documentary Hypothesis, which is a flawed theroy of OT examination. Clearly the books of Samual were also written before the captivity and they are most certainly monotheistic.

[ichonoclaster]

@TruthCeeker333 I am talking about the Persian Period from Cyrus to Alexander. Even after that in the Hellenistic Period and the Roman Period, Zoroastrians influenced the Jews - who are the returned Exiles - before the exile they were ancient Israelites. There were no jews prior to the Captivity only Israelites and they most certainly were NOT monotheistic and only adopted Monotheism by the 2nd cent BCE. The Bible is lies and not backed up by archaeology. The OT was written in the Persian Period

[TruthCeeker333]

@ichonoclaster At which point in history are you refering too? Because if your only refering to the Babylonian captivity and forward then your off track. I am simply continuing to point out that the Jews were Monotheistic prior to the Babylonian captivity. Forget if some of them were polytheistic. From Abraham forward they were monotheistic. And I believe that Noah was monotheistic as well.