Born In The USA - Bruce Springsteen Paris 85

Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band - Proshot Born In The USA - 29th June 1985,
Parc De La Courneuve, Paris, France

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[Putortous]

true patriots criticize their leaders. I love my country and really, really hate the guys in charge

[youngfeniansofeire]

respect to the boss from ireland

[Gabby2216]

shit I may just buy100Coors light just by listening2dis......

[OlderG0ds]

@decadentunicorn I understand your confusion about my first comment, it's not to say I'm lashing out at anyone who speaks against the US. The problem is most people are just hopping on the bandwagon and dishing out the usual rhetoric/insults like a bunch of parrots. It has little to no substance.

I welcome people challenging our nation's behavior, policies etc. in a way that can bring about positive change.

[decadentunicorn]

@OlderG0ds Well, I am glad to hear that you feel that way. We need more of that attitude on here.

[OlderG0ds]

@decadentunicorn I know the difference between constructive criticism (which is a very powerful and helpful tool) and enmity. The latter, seemingly, being the more popular response, in turn changing nothing but rather just stirring up animosity.

[decadentunicorn]

@OlderG0ds In essence, the song’s narrator is saying, “Yeah, I was born in the USA, and look what it got me.” If the irony has diminished since the song was written, it is only because the global perception of America as the “land of milk and honey” has significantly waned in the last decade. It isn't anti-American in the sense that it suggests all Americans are assholes. That wouldn't be ironic. That would just be inane name-calling.

[decadentunicorn]

@OlderG0ds In a nutshell, the point of the song is that being born in the USA is by no means a guarantee of privilege. At the time the song was written, there was very much a worldwide perception that America was the land of opportunity. Simply being “Born in the USA” was thought of as the golden ticket. But what sort of story does the song tell? One of a man who’s had to struggle since youth, one who’s been forced into a war that kills his brother, one who's out of work.

[decadentunicorn]

I don't think anyone is trying to put me down, let alone looking for every opportunity to do so. If you are in fact being ironic yourself in a very vague and insubstantive way (with “our critics” referencing critics of the USA), then you are not being particularly effective at countering my point. Non-Americans are perhaps even better qualified to perceive the irony of this song than native sons and daughters.

[decadentunicorn]

@OlderG0ds I don't know quite what to make of your response. You purport to support my comment, and yet you use the very strategies so often deployed by the jingoistic ideology subverted in the chorus of "Born in the USA"--you resort to name-calling, blanket statements about the intelligence of people who oppose you, and a divisive use of the first-person plural "our" (clearly intended to exclude as much as to rally insiders).

[OlderG0ds]

@decadentunicorn No they don't understand. I guess it shows the average intellect level of our critics. Brain dead morons who will take any and every opportunity to put us down, because apparently that's quite fashionable around the world.