Lou Reed's Metal Machine Trio (1) (Live in Copenhagen, April 24th, 2010)

This is a snippet of the 75 minute improvisation that Lou Reed performed with his "Metal Machine Trio" @ DR's Koncerthuset in Copenhagen, Denmark on April 24th, 2010. The improv is based on Reed's 1975 album "Metal Machine Music". The remaining two members of the trio is german avantegarde musician Ulrich Krieger who transcribed "Metal Machine Music" for chamber orchestra and electronic musician Sarth Calhoun.

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[MichaelHansenFUN]

i love it

[LastKissGoodbye]

@bleedingtyrant19 An artist can be as little as someone who takes a photo and lets machine and nature do the rest. If you feel that that action demands your time and respect, that's where our opinions differ. I'm not debating that Metal Machine Music is or isn't 'art', simply that if the exact same thing had been done by a 15 year old, nobody would have looked twice. It's purely the fact that it's Lou Reed that allowed people to find any value in this whatsoever

[LastKissGoodbye]

@bleedingtyrant19 ah, but now we're getting to the point. If a shoebox on its own isn't art, yet could be considered art if an artist presented it as such (with the intent of evoking an intellectual or emotional response), then people would be more inclined to consider it in a new light and consider its artistic merits.

[bleedingtyrant19]

@LastKissGoodbye And just another note....art/aesthetics aren't (in my opinion) as subjective as you make them. It's true that we must be general when talking about art because opinions differ drastically on any piece. But that doesn't mean that deciding what is good in music is as subjective as deciding your favorite flavor of ice cream or your favorite color.

[bleedingtyrant19]

@LastKissGoodbye Not exactly. Side walks don't provoke an intellectual or emotional response in me (and neither does defecation, shoe boxes, dust, or any number of things). An artist could take all of these, reinforce them with an evocative purpose, and turn them into art perhaps. But they are not art in and of themselves. Music is always art unless it lacks purpose and image. My point is that MMM has a purpose and image, and therefore is art. Not good art, but art.

[LastKissGoodbye]

@bleedingtyrant19 You don't exactly disagree. If your definition of art is something meant to provoke an emotional or intellectual response, then it really is as easy as pointing at anything and calling it art (the action of which encourages the audience/viewer to find an emotional or intellectual response of their own). Which is something which can be applied to the act of public defecation just as aptly as Metal Machine Music.

[bleedingtyrant19]

@LastKissGoodbye I have to disagree with you. I'm a student of literature, so defining what is "beautiful" and what is "art" pertains to my discipline. What I can say is that all art has either the intention or effect of invoking an emotional or intellectual response in its audience. Listeners have seen Metal Music Machine as either a joke or a brilliant attempt at avant garde guitar looping. I think it's art...at least it gets my brain quivering...but it's probably not great

[LastKissGoodbye]

@bleedingtyrant19 Calling the shit you took in public 'art' is the perfect metaphor for how the term 'art' can be a term entirely subjective to an individuals opinion. I wouldn't call this art, and I believe anyone who would is in no position to argue that fecal matter can't also be considered art. And the funny thing is, neither of us would be right or wrong.

[bleedingtyrant19]

@LastKissGoodbye I would like to hear your definition of "art?" I'm not saying this is good...but I think that to compare it to taking a shit in public doesn't exactly hold up. This isn't a gimmick...and I don't think it's great. But the fact that Lou is breaking some rules here, a lot of rules to be exact, demands my respect as a listener.

[LastKissGoodbye]

Step 1: take a crap in public. Step 2: call it 'art'. Step 3: Try not to laugh at people who think it's worth something just because you called it art. If you're happy to be ripped off by this kind of thing, let me know, I'll record an entire album of me smashing my face into a piano and sell you it.