I had just arrived at the Washington DC Tea Party. The march was already underway, so I immediately started to make my way toward Pennsylvania Avenue to join the NYC crowd.
@ToddAldrich I already knew your answer, that's why I said don't ask me :)
Yep, the Tea Party is shaking things up, and to say one thing, they can be corrupted just like the next man, so I'm not putting my faith into them either. All we will have for the next four years, if the Tea Party wins some seats, is a lot more blocking and nothing getting done. Pretty much the same thing we have dealt with for the last 2 years. Nothing will change.
@TheRationalBeing They SHOULDN'T be funding Bird Flu vaccines. PERIOD.
I think the TEA Party is doing a VERY good job of shaking up the Republican party PRECISELY because they ARE insisting on a return to our COnstitution. We have already kicked out MANY powerful incumbant and establishment Republicans - and those people the Tea Party endorsed are likely to win in the general elections also.
They are our best hope of getting rid of the corruption and the destruction of the Constitution
@ToddAldrich Don't ask me why they were funding bird flu. Its the same old shit, looking out for each other, government spends tax payer money and the politicians and BIG BUSINESS walk out the door with fatter wallets. That's unregulated capitalism for ya.
As far as getting those in power, government and big industry, to follow the constitution, GOOD LUCK. That's an idealistic dream. The only thing that can change the path we are on is a violent revolution, and that isn't happening soon.
@ToddAldrich How do you fix it? Do you have a solution? You want government to stay out of business, but how do you keep business out of government? Like I said, both politicians and big industry are riding in the same boat. They both benefit from each other while the tax payer is forgotten. We the people don't have a voice in this country, only the wealthy have influence on politics, and the politicians in Washington ARE the wealthy. Corruption of the free market, the fall of capitalism
@ToddAldrich Donald Rumsfeld worked for Gilead, the company responsible for the bird flu vaccine. He had millions in stocks with the company. Bush pushed for emergency funding for the bird flu epidemic to the tune of $7.1b. Rumsfeld's stock worth increased from $15-$25m.
You seem to think that there is no one in government who worked for the private sector before attaining office, and will again after leaving. There is a direct connection to people using office to reward their companies.
Sure, but what I am saying is that the people in government positions are the same people who are running big industry. Many of them have vested financial interests in the private sector. Dick Cheney served under Bush Sr. then went to Halliburton in '95, which he left in 2000 to run with Bush. Is it any wonder Halliburton received the contracts in Iraq through a no bid process?
@TheRationalBeing IF government did not have the ability to affect prescription drug prices, would there be any lobbying taking place. After all, where in the Constitution are politicians given this power?If government COULD NOT decrease the competition, would any lobbying take place??? There is no Constitutional authority for government to favor on competitor over another.
I think you get my point.Our government is doing things it HAS NO authority to do, and THAT is the source of the problem.
@ToddAldrich 3. Pay to play politics goes to the highest bidder. It reduces the need for contract bidding by providing a back room deal to whatever company has donated the most to the candidates.
You are right, the government has played a huge roll in our countries problems, but at the same time, they have fallen for the old cliche "money talks", which is an unfortunate human element in the equation. So the question is, how do we erase this element when it is stoutly entrenched in politics
@ToddAldrich I already knew your answer, that's why I said don't ask me :)
Yep, the Tea Party is shaking things up, and to say one thing, they can be corrupted just like the next man, so I'm not putting my faith into them either. All we will have for the next four years, if the Tea Party wins some seats, is a lot more blocking and nothing getting done. Pretty much the same thing we have dealt with for the last 2 years. Nothing will change.
TheRationalBeing 1 year ago
@TheRationalBeing They SHOULDN'T be funding Bird Flu vaccines. PERIOD.
I think the TEA Party is doing a VERY good job of shaking up the Republican party PRECISELY because they ARE insisting on a return to our COnstitution. We have already kicked out MANY powerful incumbant and establishment Republicans - and those people the Tea Party endorsed are likely to win in the general elections also.
They are our best hope of getting rid of the corruption and the destruction of the Constitution
ToddAldrich 1 year ago
@ToddAldrich Don't ask me why they were funding bird flu. Its the same old shit, looking out for each other, government spends tax payer money and the politicians and BIG BUSINESS walk out the door with fatter wallets. That's unregulated capitalism for ya.
As far as getting those in power, government and big industry, to follow the constitution, GOOD LUCK. That's an idealistic dream. The only thing that can change the path we are on is a violent revolution, and that isn't happening soon.
TheRationalBeing 1 year ago
@TheRationalBeing The solution is to FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION.
ToddAldrich 1 year ago
@TheRationalBeing Why was the Federal government funding bird flu vaccines??
ToddAldrich 1 year ago
@ToddAldrich How do you fix it? Do you have a solution? You want government to stay out of business, but how do you keep business out of government? Like I said, both politicians and big industry are riding in the same boat. They both benefit from each other while the tax payer is forgotten. We the people don't have a voice in this country, only the wealthy have influence on politics, and the politicians in Washington ARE the wealthy. Corruption of the free market, the fall of capitalism
TheRationalBeing 1 year ago
@ToddAldrich Donald Rumsfeld worked for Gilead, the company responsible for the bird flu vaccine. He had millions in stocks with the company. Bush pushed for emergency funding for the bird flu epidemic to the tune of $7.1b. Rumsfeld's stock worth increased from $15-$25m.
You seem to think that there is no one in government who worked for the private sector before attaining office, and will again after leaving. There is a direct connection to people using office to reward their companies.
TheRationalBeing 1 year ago
Sure, but what I am saying is that the people in government positions are the same people who are running big industry. Many of them have vested financial interests in the private sector. Dick Cheney served under Bush Sr. then went to Halliburton in '95, which he left in 2000 to run with Bush. Is it any wonder Halliburton received the contracts in Iraq through a no bid process?
TheRationalBeing 1 year ago
@TheRationalBeing IF government did not have the ability to affect prescription drug prices, would there be any lobbying taking place. After all, where in the Constitution are politicians given this power?If government COULD NOT decrease the competition, would any lobbying take place??? There is no Constitutional authority for government to favor on competitor over another.
I think you get my point.Our government is doing things it HAS NO authority to do, and THAT is the source of the problem.
ToddAldrich 1 year ago
@ToddAldrich 3. Pay to play politics goes to the highest bidder. It reduces the need for contract bidding by providing a back room deal to whatever company has donated the most to the candidates.
You are right, the government has played a huge roll in our countries problems, but at the same time, they have fallen for the old cliche "money talks", which is an unfortunate human element in the equation. So the question is, how do we erase this element when it is stoutly entrenched in politics
TheRationalBeing 1 year ago