Ron Paul: 'Education Isn't A Right'

From msnbc.com

March 2, 2011

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[Tezcatlepocatl]

Paul's right. You got good grades and want to go to college but can't afford it? Apply for a scholarship or take out a student loan from a private loan provider.

The government lending large amounts of money without a second thought to anyone who asks for it simply because it's for "education" only results in colleges and universities charging as much as they want, because they know they'll get it, from the taxpayer's pockets, no less. Meanwhile, students get stuck with huge debt...

[lasoogneypubes]

If you got good grades then you shouldn't have a problem getting scholarships. That's the point of scholarships. Giving money to those who work hard but can't finance their own education. If our economy was stronger then college would be a lot cheaper and loans wouldn't be so hard to pay back.

[benwil1785]

We ran a youth project which was funded by the government to take kids on outdoor adventure and skill building exercises. We made it free to attend, not one kid showed which worked out great for us because we just sat and drank beer and ate all the food lol. But when we charged £10 to go, everyone showed up. If you pay for something you end up having a responsibility to go, an incentive. Sad but true.

[TheMoohoos]

Why complain about money when you got money, thats all i am saying.

[TheMoohoos]

Look I think the goverment should help with education because it gives the poor people an oppurtunity to propser and have a chance to move up in life. Many argue that they could get loans or scholarships but there is so many varibles that people dont consider, many ethical questions that people dont care for. There is somany situautions that the working class or higher classes can not comprehend because they HAVE money. I dont think people understand the concept of P-O-O-R.

[Tezcatlepocatl]

@Robin90modell

You want a high percentage of skilled people in a population. But you don't want, nor can you have, 100% of the population being highly skilled.

Besides, we have too many young people in the US studying to be in the services sector of the economy, producing nothing. We need more people to get a higher education that's useful in the primary and secondary sectors, while giving incentives to companies and corporations to have jobs for those skills here.

[Robin90modell]

@Tezcatlepocatl

When considering public state funded education, a student's wish to make himself feel better than others is not a priority. The goal is to ensure you have a highly skilled population. When making higher education free, they may also have reduced requirements for a degree, and one can also argue that public education has a tendency to allow to many students in social studies. Neither did I say for everyone, but it should be decided by grades rather than money.

[Tezcatlepocatl]

@Robin90modell

Look at N330AA's comment below. He nailed it. First, it's stupid for everyone to pay for college when not everyone is going to go (some people just want to get straight to working on something).

But the fact is that it's not like everyone SHOULD go to college. You go to college to distinguish yourself over others with a degree. If everyone has a degree, then your degree is meaningless and worthless. And then you'll regret having wasted time & money getting it instead of working.

[Robin90modell]

@Tezcatlepocatl

You're basically saying colleges and universities charges more than what is necessary.

In other words moral of the story is to have public colleges/universities. The nation/state should fund these so that they can reduce tuition fee to a minor expense.

This reduces debts students are stuck with. They would probably not be able to compete with some of the top universities (usually very expensive), but they can be decent, and viable for everyone (with good grades).

[N330AA]

@Jeroentk12 Well i am from the Europe so i think i can speak with some authority. The last government made universities free here. All that happened was loads of people went and got pointless degrees and didn't take their education seriously. Now we have a situation where degrees are almost meaningless as everyone has them, and the tax payers were paying for this. Thankfully the current gov has upped the fees, so now people are thinking about whether it's worth getting a degree or not.

[N330AA]

Everyone should be allowed free education up to the age of 18. Universities should be charged though. A plumber doesn't get free education so why should a person who's going to university?