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Even mistranslated, as Im pretty sure this is, a close look at it really makes the idea that the Zanj revolt was primarily a slave revolt seem less probable
Al-Jahiz (776-869) born in Basra : Al-Fakhar al-Sudan
min al-Abyadh (the prides of blacks over the whites)
"The Blacks continue: coming from Abyssinia, we were Masters of the country of Arabia up to Mecca, and on all the country our law reigned. We put to rout Du Nuwas, killed by the 'Aqyal Himyarites. You, you never dominated our country."....
They say; If a Zanji and a Zanji women marry and their children remain after puberty in Iraq, they come to rule the roost thanks to their numbers, endurance, knowledge, and efficiency. On the other hand, the child of an Indian and an Indian woman, or of a Greek and a Greek woman, or of a Khurasani and a Khurasani women remain among you and in your country in the same condition as their fathers and mothers".....
"The Zanj also say : Among our good qualities are our good singers. As you can find among the slave girls from Sind. Also nobody is a better cook then the black slaves from Sind. Also moneychangers will never entrust their money then to those from Sind or their descendents as they are found to be better in those affairs, more alert and worthy of thrusting . One hardly ever finds a Greek or a Khorassan in a position of trust in a bank. When the bankers of Basra saw the excellent affairs that Faraj Abu Kub, a Sindi, had negotiated for his master, each of them took a Sindi assistant. They all wanted to make the profit his master had made. Caliph Sultan Abdelmalik ibn Mcrwan often said, "El Adgham is a master among all the Orientals." This El Adgham is also mentioned by Abdullar ibn Khnazim, who calls him, "An Ethiopian, a black son of Ethiopia."
http://www.geocities.com/pieterderideaux/jahiz.html
M. A. Shaban on the Zanj revolt
"If more proof is needed that it was not a slave revolt, it is to be found in the fact that it had a highly organized army and navy which vigorously resisted the whole weight of the central government for almost fifteen years. Moreover, it must have had huge resources that allowed it to build no less than six impregnable towns in which there were arsenals for the manufacture of weapons and battleships. These towns also had in their mammoth markets prodigious wealth which was more than the salt marshes could conceivably produce. Even all the booty from Basra and the whole region could not account for such enormous wealth. Significantly the revolt had the backing of a certain group of merchants who preserved with their support until the very end. Tabari makes it very clear that the strength of the rebels was dependent on the support of these merchants."
http://books.google.com/books?id=Wkqlp-lHllcC&pg=PA101
Ibn Khaldun on Ethopians
"From their country Yemen once had its kings. The king of the Abyssinians was entitled Al-Negashi, and the capital of his kingdom was the city of Kaber. The Abyssinians are Christians, but it is said that one of their kings embraced the true faith when Mohammed visited their country in the Hijra. They believe that they are destined to become masters of Yemen and all Arabia"
http://books.google.com/books?id=380NAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA117#
"From Ethiopia To Yemen" By Richard Pankhurst
"The result of such convergent investigations by scholars working in different fields was that Jacqueline Pirenne, basing herself on the areas material culture, as well as on linguistic and paleographic data, stood Conti Rossini thesis on its head. She argued that migration was not from Yemen to Ethiopia, but rather in the opposite direction: from Ethiopia to Yemen.
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules...
Also Arabian origins of Aksum civilization also questioned here
"Conceptualizing/re-conceptualizing Africa" page 41
"The Axumite kingdom is an excellent case in point. Being such an important example of African cultural development, a European myth of external (South Arabian) origins for this culture solidified in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries and has taken on the quality of truth for most scholars today. In fact, there is little evidence for this other than the powerful pull of ideology, which states that Africa cannot produce culture, civilizations, or history."
http://books.google.com/books?id=sd4gnqTZ8IUC&pg=PA41#
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Why do all you have to be nasty towards one another. It is so disapointing. So sad.
Jumanidc 2 months ago
@scorpionsSon The first mechanism of Evolution is natural selection,we teach this to our kids in school,all scientists already know this,its best you stick to your rock worshipping pal ;)
DuckingNDiving 6 months ago
@DuckingNDiving Loool, not on mutation but on natural selection... Lol , you have no idea what natural selection ...
No wonder your head is full with lies and bullshit. Mutation is the reason everything changes. without mutation, there would be no natural selection.
Now I know you're a complete idiot, debating with you is a waste of time. *uses anti-troll spray*
if you don't even understand Evolution, how the hell did you understand Religion, you're one fuckin idiot
scorpionsSon 6 months ago
@scorpionsSon funny how muhammad was a criminial and a theif and you call him a prophet,the Qarmatians proved that the quran is a joke,sura 2:125-126 are false promises made by a false God
DuckingNDiving 6 months ago
@scorpionsSon i never said i was an atheist,i am agnostic,you muslims think that whoever does not submit to your muhammadian allah is an unbeliever in an intelligent designer,your allah is not an intelligent designer,you only need to read the quran to see that
DuckingNDiving 6 months ago
@scorpionsSon evolutian does not rely on mutation,it relies more on natural selection,you have no idea of the already proven basic concepts of this science,Archaeopteryx faked by chinese?LOL,the fossil was found in Germany,there is no evolution in the quran,unless of course you believe in noahs fairytale flood and then kageroos swam to austrailia
DuckingNDiving 6 months ago
@scorpionsSon you a muslim,you prefer to believe that the first man was adam and made out of mud and 30 meters tall,so please do not talk about evolution to me,there are many creatures in the wild that have precursors for wings,these are gliding animals,even some varities of lizards glide from treetops,you muslims seem to think that evolution happens overnight when it takes millions of years of natural selection,there is even a species of fish that can partially fly
DuckingNDiving 6 months ago
@scorpionsSon You should learn to become more polite if you really want to be muslim onw day :)
The truth is the enemy of all lies, don't be surprised to see people fighting Islam with lies. Be patient, one day, he will know the truth as well. One day...
n1Comment 7 months ago
I was gonna spend more time explaining how the real revolution went on, but now that I think about it, you deserve to think your ancesters are monkeys ( they were more sauvage then sauvage monkeys, now that's for sure)
scorpionsSon 7 months ago
Btw, I'm not muslim (but I hope to became one soon)
You're spreading lies, your hero, that Quatarien guy is a criminal and a thief. You said it yourself. No wonder you have no morals.
You Europeans can identify with criminals and thiefs since that's what you do all your life. Steal other people's wealth, massacre them and then say they were the savages
Get well soon or even better get a life soon, spreading lies all day long isn't a healthy hobby.
scorpionsSon 7 months ago