Shaz Response Round 3 part 1

This is getting old, I know. But shaz is sticking to his guns on alot of these issues even after I have thoroughly debunked them. For example.
1) He insists that Ranall N Baer did not convert to Christianity in order to make money. But yet, Randall sold books on the subject and did speaking arrangements. These things he made money from.

2) He insists that the entire New Age movement is predatory and only wants your money.

Here are some links to some "New Age" sites that offer free services.

Circle Sanctuary
http://www.circlesanctuary.org/
Offers free information, education and legal defense amongst otehr things

Witchschool-Offers Free Online Classes
http://www.witchschool.com/

Earth Spiritualists of Chicago
http://www.meetup.com/earthspiritchicago/
Offers free rituals, education and healing by donation only no one ever turned away for lack of funds.

Here's the church that requires tithing:
It's Crossroads Community Church
http://www.crossroadscn.com/

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[afr054]

BlueFireWitch - misquoting Shaz doesn't mean that you've debunked anything.

Randall N Baer sold books. He didn't convert to christianity in order to sell books, and the implication is fairly lame. The whole new age racket is in trouble, if pagans can't do better.

Neither did he say that all new age scrounge for money. Just most of them. Which is true. Check out the Oprah channel.

Right now, christianity is kicking your pagan ass, and it's embarassing!

[BlueFireWitch]

1) I've never misquoted him. 2) I never disputed that he sold books. Selling books doesn't make one a leader in the community. 3) Your "whole new age racket" sentence is a senseless generalization. 4) I never said he said that. There are no quotes around what I said, but he did outline where Randall N Baer said that nothing is free in the New Age and emphasized that point. I debunked it. 5)Oprah is hardly a New Age leader. She's an enthusiast. Paganism is rising, Christianity is dying.

[BlueFireWitch]

Continued...

You were just pwned too. Every point you made, I thoroughly refuted. How does it feel to have your ass kicked by a Pagan?

[UndeadLight]

Damn a movie screen, Starbucks, book store... Is that a church or a mall!?

[afr054]

But why do you keep wasting your time here, when you are neither a pagan nor a christian!? You idiot!

You are neither side of the debate, feel that both are wasting their lives, but you waste your life, talking to them.

It seems to me that a person that believes in nothing, really will fall for anything.

And as for that joke about worrying when you're dead, you really are too weak.

[BlueFireWitch]

Oh I condemn harm and I don't like it when people call themselves Pagans and then hurt people in the name of their religion.

[999Atwood]

Ok fine, as long as you are not in one of the pagan groups who enjoy murder & cannibalism. I find those practices repulsive. Seems like people get bored with the lower levels eventually & move on to the sick stuff later. Thats all I thinking. I'll leave you alone now. Best regards...

[BlueFireWitch]

And I suppose I'd feel the same way if I didn't get gratification from my religious practices. But, I see it as life enhancement regardless of the afterlife.

[999Atwood]

Yes, I have no real objection to it other than I see (belief) as a waste of precious time. I would rather spend my time living. When I'm dead I'll be busy being dead & I see no need worring about it now.

[BlueFireWitch]

I guess the best way to answer that is that everyone has different life experiences which make them see the world differently. Its human instinct to form groups and identify with those groups.