Ip Ching Chum Kiu 葉正尋橋

Grand Master Ip Ching demonstrate the form Chum Kiu, the 2nd form of Wing Chun and application

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[TheCombatAddiction]

Grandmaster Ip Ching is The Best

[XiaoqiXi]

after practicing wing-chun a year and half from master Jim Poulson, i was starting learning Chum-Kiu yesterday, that's so exciting!

[MintyHippo73]

omfg i liek wana marry ip ching hes so haaawt

[MintyHippo73]

@spoonydanger

WING HUN KUEN WOKS SO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR­D

[11Kralle]

@spoonydanger

Ok, I think we use different terms. With `form´ I ment the complete set of `SiuNimTao´ or `ChamKiu´ a.s.o, Unlike most kungfu - you wrote it as well - wingchun-forms are no shadow-fights - I know that! I think we differ mainly in our so-called heritage or style (in whose i dont believe). My sihing showed my a very sophisticated setting of movements in his form-teachings, so I want first to achieve his physique before I go own ways. My method is old-fashioned: 90% form 10% chi-sao!

[spoonydanger]

@11Kralle In the form, one uses their own body as a reference. It won't look exactly like the form in combat, what's important is that the structure is sound for the situation encountered. One isn't pretending to fight anyone in the forms.

[11Kralle]

@spoonydanger

Excuse me: That sounds much as if you doing your forms everyday different. Whilst fighting, the opponent defines how deep or high my limbs are moved to absorb him complete, thats naturally not to dispute. Form training should contain more accurate movements to stretch my body in wing-chun-shape - maybe my crummy physique does not allow itself to reach those perfect positions (I have been taught so!), but this does not rule out my destination to reach that level of stretching.

[spoonydanger]

@11Kralle There is of course a possible way to do it wrong, but those "ways" are very personal, as is what works. Everyone is built differently and the importance of the arm angle is variable just as the height of the opponent is variable. One should accommodate the situation, otherwise you get hit and say "This technique doesn't work" rather than "I've done something wrong."

[11Kralle]

@spoonydanger

Thanks for your comment. I concede, but there is always a possible way to do it wrong, aint it? My statements were referring to the private practise of forms and not to real fight- or `sparring´-situations. That certain height or angle - nevertheless - should be defined by physic-related arguments, like so: since the wedge has to be in every movement, bong-sao-forearm must be in a 135° angle, which is done, if I push my elbow in an uncramped way right before my chest.

[spoonydanger]

@11Kralle This quote sums up my issues with your talk. I'll defer to a master. "Many Ving Tsun practitioners like to impose their techniques into frozen and static postures. Many believe that Bong Sau should be done at certain height or angle, or criticize others for not complying to their artificial standards. Some may call this style traditionalist; that style reformist; and on and on. In fact, movements in Siu Nim Tau are not named as if they were static postures." GM Chu Shong Tin.