Anton Batey vs. Michael X of the Nation of Islam 6/7

Table of Contents

Part 1

Personal background
Is Elijah Muhammad alive?
Who is the god of the Nation of Islam?
Life after death -- heaven and hell
Almighty god is a human being
God created himself

Part 2

God created himself
How can a man (god) create a sun?
How did god (a man) create a woman from himself?

Part 3

How did god (a human being) create a woman from himself?
The many (2.5 billion) almighty gods that have existed
Master Fard Muhammad (god in person)
- Fard Muhammad has to "wonder" about something? How can an all-knowing being "wonder" when the word means "a feeling a puzzlement or doubt". Elijah Muhammad also said plenty of times that god is "all-knowing".
- "Albert Einstein" is "Yakub" in Arabic?
- Fard wrong about Baruch de Spinoza (challenging anyone to produce a *single* source which denies that Spinoza was born in November, 1632 and died in February, 1677
The Yakub myth (the creation of the white man)

Part 4

The Yakub myth (the creation of the white man)
DNA is a "trick of the devil"
Gorillas came from white people trying to breed back to being Black

Part 5

Gorillas came from white people trying to breed back to being Black
Radio-carbon dating is a "myth" created by the white man to fool people
Adam and Eve, according to Elijah Muhammad
Malachi 4:5: "Behold, I will send you Elijah the PROPHET..." How can this refer to Elijah Muhammad when he denied that he was a "prophet"?
Qur'anic verses referring to Adam, separating him from the devil, Allah ordering people to follow Adam, etc., whom Elijah Muhammad claims he is/represents the devil...

Part 6

Qur'anic verses referring to Adam, separating him from the devil, Allah ordering people to follow Adam, etc., whom Elijah Muhammad claims he is/represents the devil...

Part 7

Conclusion

My thoughts on the interview/debate:

According to Elijah Muhammad, Adam and Eve are representative of, not the first people on earth, but the first *white* people on earth, and are of the Adamic devil-race. However, there are several verses in the Qur'an where Allah orders the angels (who, according to Elijah Muhammad, are presumable Black). Why would God order angels to bow and submit to a race of devils? The God got angry with the Iblis that did not submit to the "devil", supposedly Adam. Read Surah 2:34, 7:11, 17:61, 18:50 and 20:116. Then there is the verse that 20:120, which god tells Adam not to let the devil deceive him by accepting his "suggestion". All of the sudden, "he" isn't a person, but is an evil inclination. However, Elijah Muhammad said in Message to the Blackman, "Do you refer to God as He, Him! These pronouns refer to a man." Finally, Surah 36:60, which states that "Did I not charge you, O children of Adam ! that you should not serve the Shaitan? Surely he is your open enemy". This is the final blow to Elijah Muhammad's theories, in my opinion. But no.........all of the sudden, "Adam" in this verse alone means "GOD", and no longer the "devil".

With all due respect to Brother Michael, he was clearly making up many of these answers on the fly.

That's my take on the discussion. Thank you Michael, again, I really appreciate the time. His videos can be found on YouTube under the name "TheElijahMuhammad". It is a very good resource if you're interested.


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[metaphysical483]

@prophecy505 HE WON'T DEBATE YOU. YOU FEARS ANY BODY WITH KNOWLEDGE. HE LOVES MIKE'E KIND.

[metaphysical483]

@childofYHWH1 YOU BETTER GO AND RESEARCH THE ROTHSCHILDS. THEY GOT THEIR HISTORY ON YOU TUBE. GO LOOK IT UP SO YOU CAN STOP SOUNDING SO FOOL AS YOU WRITE

[rickw1100]

Stupid monkey!!

[childofYHWH1]

WE MEN OF WHATEVER COLOR U WANT TO CALL URSELVES. THE WOMEN RUN THE SHOW. THE PRESIDENTS R SUBMITTING TO & WORSHIPPING THE DARKER NATURE OF A MAN, A WOMAN OR A WOUNDED-MAN OR A DEVIL. JESUS (YAHSHUA) THREATENED THE DAUGHTERS OF JERUSALEM WHILE HE WAS ON THE CROSS. HE FORGAVE THE ROMANS WHILE HE WAS ON THE CROSS. THE GOVT (DEMOCRACY) WAS THE ROD THAT RULED BACK THEN & IS THE SAME GOVT (DEMOCRACY) THAT IS THE ROD THAT IS RULING NOW. PRAISE YAHWEH & YAHWEH BEN YAHWEH.

[childofYHWH1]

THE WHITE MAN (THE BLACK MAN WEAKER GENE) IS 2 STUPID 2 BE THE DEVIL. THE WHITE MAN IS N HELL WITH THE BLACK MAN. HE IS ON CHILD SUPPORT WITH THE BLACK MAN. WOMEN VOTED FOR THAT SLAVERY. THIS GOVT IS A GOVT THAT IS OF THE PEOPLE, BY PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE. ANSWER: THE WOMEN! THEY OUTNUMBER MEN FORTY TO ONE. SHE RUNS THE WORLD. THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS TO LET WOMEN RUN THE WORLD. ASK HILLARY CLINTON WHY SHE'S TRYING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT & CUT OUT THE ELECTORAL VOTES.

[childofYHWH1]

THE DEVIL (BLACK WOMAN) IS REFERRED AS A HE BECAUSE SHE IS SITTING N HIS SEAT OF AUTHORITY AS IF SHE IS GOD. THE POPE AND OTHERS WORSHIP A BLACK STATUE BECAUSE SHE GIVES THEM POWER. SHE IS THE DARK NATURE OF MALE. BEHIND EVERY WICKED MAN IS A WICKED WOMAN. WOMAN MEANS A WOUNDED-MAN, WOUND OF A MAN. SATAN IS REVEALED, THEIR NAME IS LILITH, ONE-THIRD OF THE BLACK WOMEN OF AMERICA. WHITE WOMEN FILLS UP OPRAH WINFREY SEATS ON HER SHOWS. WHITE WOMEN GO 2 HER SEEKING ADVISE FROM HER, THE DRAGON.

[childofYHWH1]

ALL PRAISES BE UN2 YAHWEH & HIS SON/SUN YAHWEH BEN YAHWEH. DID NOT NOAH (BLACK MAN), FROM HIS 3 SONS POPULATE THE ENTIRE EARTH? SHEM (CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, ORIENTALS, ASIANS), HAM (AFRICANS), & JAPHETH (EUROPEANS). THERE IS NO SUCH IDENTITY AS A WHITE MAN. SKIN COLOR IS A DIVIDE & CONQUER GAME. THE VERY 1ST DEVIL WAS THE BLACK WOMAN (LILITH A.K.A. ADAM'S 1ST WIFE) IN THE GARDEN, CREATED ON 6-DAY, THAT WASNT NAMED. GOD IS THE MAN! DEVIL IS THE WOMAN! OPPOSITES ATTRACT! PRAISE YAHWEH.

[afterray]

elijah mohammad was a fake and the NOI (in their thinking) are like the KKK.

[prophecy505]

anton ima 5 percenter we see things in a far more scientific and mathematical sense, in the sense of showing and proving what we acknowledge, for more than this guy....a 5 percneter that has gone thru schools of thought, history, and seeing with his own eyes, we dont believe anything, we only acknowledge what we know...peace

[GreenRhythm85]

@trayder29 Reality is nothing but a mindset. Everyone's reality is different. My reality is completely different than the reality of someone who lives in a forest.

Try going my whole life denying Allah, and see how miserable I'll be? That's exactly what I'm talking about lol. Listen, if you want to believe what YOU want to believe, that's perfectly ok, and there's nothing wrong with that. But that doesn't make them true. It's just your belief. I'll be fine without Allah, trust me on that lol ;)