Steven Crowder 4 Theocracy!

@ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02jtMIauIA

I like crowder. Fun, easy to dismantle, good reactive subscribers. But he's clearly a closet theocrat who'd love nothing more than to see bible quotes, not economic statistics, used to justify policy. This makes him an asshat.


http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v428/n6979/full/428140a.html - Reciprocal ethics, fairness in monkeys

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard/story?id=603706&page=1 Monkey Empathy

The Treaty of Tripoli, passed by the U.S. Senate in 1797, read in part:"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." The treaty was written during the Washington administration, and sent to the Senate during the Adams administration. It was read aloud to the Senate, and each Senator received a printed copy. This was the 339th time that a recorded vote was required by the Senate, but only the third time a vote was unanimous (the next time was to honor George Washington). There is no record of any debate or dissension on the treaty. It was reprinted in full in three newspapers - two in Philadelphia, one in New York City. There is no record of public outcry or complaint in subsequent editions of the papers.

The Christian god is a 3 headed monster: cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging god, one only need look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes; fools and hypocrites"

-Thomas Jefferson

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[Rhaven85]

I don't think that Crowder was talking about the norms of Morality like "no murder or theft". I think he was talking about the fact that the founding fathers of the country believed that the rights of the individual come from a higher power than man (God) and are thus unalienable. BTW, I'm agnostic and don't really care about religion. I'm just not going to deny that the founders of this country did.

[JmkLcAeJsm]

@Rhaven85

Aye, but that's because no wholly secular political philosophy really existed at that point in time. At that time, 'natural philosophy' was intimately bound up with theology, things that were natural were 'divine' by definition. However, the founding fathers' beliefs don't fit into christian thought, they belong to the enlightenment tradition.

[MasterTheJ]

So when a liberal refers to Christianity as "a death cult that infected Europe" he's making social commentary. When a conservative does the same of Islam he's branded as a bigot (and rightfully so). So therefore let me hold you as a liberal to the same standard as I hold conservatives and say that you are a bigoted ignorant prick.

[JmkLcAeJsm]

@MasterTheJ

So does your baseless insult apply to everyone who criticises religion and the often hypocritical and anti-humane actions of the religious?

[MasterTheJ]

@JmkLcAeJsm Criticizing the actions of a religion is entirely legitimate and I encourage you make a video where you whine about everything which Christianity has done- it'd be a long video. Yet when Atheists criticize a religion like Christianity calling it a "death cult" thats simply showing the same ignorance and intolerance which you condemn in other religions. The only difference is that you in your eyes have a justifiable grounds to do so... just like every other religion has claimed.

[JmkLcAeJsm]

@MasterTheJ

Being ignorant of a religion, I find, is more likely to beget tolerance than knowledge of it is. Insulting something does not display intolerance anyway, and I don't particularly object to the childish slagging matches/debates that theists have with each other.

I don't see how christians can possibly object to their religion being called a death cult. It is a cult without a shadow of a doubt, as all religions are by definition, and it focuses on death.

[JmkLcAeJsm]

It makes them universal, which means that calling them uniquely christian is ridiculous. When Crowder claims that values that inform the US law are 'christian' in origin, he is talking crap.

[JmkLcAeJsm]

Go for it, I don't mind being insulted, and I actually enjoy having my ideas challenged. Over the years I've got so used to people calling names when they can't respond to my ideas I don't really notice any more.

[4PFrog]

The First Amendment applys only to Congress. The individual states could make a state religion if they chose to do so. Should they, probably not. But to take your agrument to it's full realization is to say that all members of the govenment should be Athists... but even that wouldn't work since the Supreme Court defines Atheism as a religion. Can't win, can you?

[MagicTellaVision]

“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.

[MasterTheJ]

(continued) This ignorance hinders understanding and indeed breeds intolerance, and the condescending tones which you use towards it, indeed shows the same bigoted and exceptionalistic attitudes present on both sides in the religious- non-religious debates. And contrary to what you say, while criticizing may not show intolerance, insulting a religion definitely demonstrates this intolerance.

[MasterTheJ]

@JmkLcAeJsm The fact that you don't see why Christians would object to their religion as being refered to as a death cult. And the fact the you believe Christianity focuses on death (which is a wholly over simplistic and incorrect representation of the religion which I would love to discuss should you be willing). Shows your ignorance of Christianity.

The fact that you see all religions as a cult. Shows the ignorance which you view religion from. (see next post)

[USN1985dos]

Typical leftist double-standard BS.

[ventz5995]

@JmkLcAeJsm

lol