Mario Lanza/Frances Yeend LIVE from Hollywood Bowl, part 4
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I see. Makes perfect sense.
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"subjective imagery" such as "spin the sound", "sing in the mask", "placement" etc. You cannot spin sound, you cannot place sound. All of these things do not directly develop the vocal mechanism. They are simply tricks. What happened is that successful singers who had certain sensations when singing then tried to teach voice based on how it felt to them when they sang. But this is very limiting if not damaging. You have to develop and build and instrument based on what is actually there.
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When you talk about "subjective imagery," do you mean trying to forcibly apply set standards and techniques for all singers and voice types?
And could you explain "singer voice teacher" too ha ha. Do you mean improperly taught singers then becoming teachers?
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I would love to do that - only allowing the best singers with the best training. There are many programs like that, but they don't really have the right vocal training.
This downward spiral started with the "singer voice teacher" and the introduction of subjective imagery. You cannot teach someone how to sing through subjective imagery. It is way too open to misinterpretation and does not directly address fundamental, functional issues. And this is now the standard of teaching in schools.
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Makes you want to open your own opera house and conservatory. Call it the society for the preservation of opera. All we need is a rich patron. :P
How did the system *GET* this corrupt?? It sure didn't take that long, relatively speaking. As late as the 60's and 70's thinks still seemed to be going pretty well... :-[
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First you have to shoot all the directors and people hiring. They are utterly clueless. And I cannot emphasize that enough. And they sacrifice good voices for the overall cast. BARF! Secondly we need voices to be trained correctly. The system is unfortunately completely corrupt. You cannot believe what these teachers are doing to voices.
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How about some guys just going out on stage, standing, and thrilling the audience with their voices. Not anymore :-(
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LOL argh. Hadn't heard that one. o_O How about this one, for "Rosenkavalier:" "the Marschallin is found seated at her dressing table amid clouds. Not liking what she sees, she shatters her mirror, as satyr-like men, with strapped on genitalia, appear and begin to gang rape her, an experience from which she is saved by the arrival of Octavian, who is lowered, deus ex machine-style, onto the stage. Dressed in his 18th-century best, he fights the satyrs off." (Stuttgart opera) GAH I'm getting sick
Many say that ML could not have made it in opera. After listening to the many offerings from this concert, I would think that their argument would fade.
Lovelytenor1 1 year ago
@Lovelytenor1 agreed!
ShawDAMAN 1 year ago